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  • a rematch with the same commission

    same venue

    same judges

    same referee

    same drug testing agency

    and floyd getting dehydrated again will result into what happens may 2 2015

    i am not sure though if they will need correction fluid again to make floyd win again.

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    • Originally posted by g27region View Post
      Yes, Pacquiao is washed up, but even washed up version of Pac is good enough to beat a lot of other great fighters and good enough to be in p4p list, and that's a compliment to Pacquiao skills. But he wasn't the same fighter since that KO and it's a fact.

      As for Floyd, he's never been the agressive kind of boxer so why you should except KO's from him anyway? Like I've said, he was getting victories using his defense. I mean, I like watching Floyd defensive skills sometimes but his fights are boring to watch for full 12 rounds, but I can't deny that the boy got phenomenal talent.
      Still at present he is still good value to watch against anyone don't you think knowing he is still better than the rest?

      I guess boxing fans expectation on Pac is just higher. Being spectacular is a norm when you watch him, while in Floyd case watching him to fall asleep is a good thing. No KDs needed for Floyd.

      # and the double standards continues
      Last edited by Spoon23; 04-27-2016, 02:06 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
        I can respect that. It's rarely in a lifetime do you see 2 p4p fight each other wether their older now they are still the 2 best fighters in the game.

        especially when you had an injured pac that was a half of himself that night.

        http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12849868

        I can believe Pacman that he in fact was 'disabled' and that he went through with the fight because he didn't want to let the fans down, etc., yet he should have postponed it maybe to be fully fit. But that's all history now and as I've said elsewhere before too, I'm not getting into detailed arguments here. But any boxing fan should want a rematch to be able to say they fought on even terms.

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        • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
          I can believe Pacman that he in fact was 'disabled' and that he went through with the fight because he didn't want to let the fans down, etc., yet he should have postponed it maybe to be fully fit. But that's all history now and I said I'm not getting into detailed arguments here. But any boxing fan should want a rematch to be able to say they fought on even terms.
          When there are literally millions upon millions of dollars from sponsorships, investors, producers from all over the globe riding on that fight. Hotels were booked. Telecast from around the world has been signed and sealed. The world was watching, front, back and center. There was no stopping that freight train. Pac knew that. What Pac did was commendable. He manned up and besides it took him 6 years to get Floyd in the ring if he postponed it Floyd would have made another excuse.
          Last edited by Spoon23; 04-27-2016, 03:15 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
            Still at present he is still good value to watch against anyone don't you think knowing he is still better than the rest?

            I guess pac's expectation is just higher. Being spectacular is a norm when you watch him, while in Floyd case watching him to fall asleep is a good thing. No KDs needed for Floyd.

            Cheers!
            Yes, I'd prefer to watch Pacquiao fights, they're definitely more entertaining. I love when fighters brings war and agression in the ring. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate Mayweather skills though. I don't like the logic of boxing fans, they think if you're a Floyd fan you're supposed to hate on Pac and vice versa, which is ******. But if Floyd/Pac rematch will happen we'll get to see another boring and overhyped fight with the same results on scorecards. They'll make some big money again though. Mayweather and Pacquiao retired and for me, both of these fighters became the face of the whole era of 00's boxing and that boxing era ended with their retirement. I respect them both as a fighters. But I'd prefer to see new faces and new talents now

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            • Originally posted by g27region View Post
              Yes, I'd prefer to watch Pacquiao fights, they're definitely more entertaining. I love when fighters brings war and agression in the ring. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate Mayweather skills though. I don't like the logic of boxing fans, they think if you're a Floyd fan you're supposed to hate on Pac and vice versa, which is ******. But if Floyd/Pac rematch will happen we'll get to see another boring and overhyped fight with the same results on scorecards. They'll make some big money again though. Mayweather and Pacquiao retired and for me, both of these fighters became the face of the whole era of 00's boxing and that boxing era ended with their retirement. I respect them both as a fighters. But I'd prefer to see new faces and new talents now
              You just called Pac washed up, when you openly admitted he is better than most out there. That ain't washed up brotha' it's your opinion that is just non consistent. When Floyd is over 40 he is still good. While in Pac's case he knocks down a p4p fighter twice is a norm for Pac and you still can call him washed up while Floyd beating a washed up fighter doesn't make him washed up. See what you just did.

              If you called both of them washed up and i can understand that completely. that makes it consistent and just shows you have high standards, but that wasn't what you said.

              # remove the hugging part. This fight will be exciting. I guarantee Pac will be unleashed.

              # bayless out we have a fight
              Last edited by Spoon23; 04-27-2016, 02:34 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                You just called Pac washed up, when you openly admitted he is better than most out there. That ain't washed up brotha' it's your opinion that is just non consistent. When Floyd is over 40 he is still good. While in Pac's case he knocks down a p4p fighter twice is a norm for Pac and you still can call him washed up while Floyd beating a washed up fighter doesn't make him washed up. See what you just did.

                If you called both of them washed up and i can understand that completely. that makes it consistent and just shows you have high standards, but that wasn't what you said.
                I have to explain that

                I'm not saying that Floyd is the same fighter he was 7 years ago. He's not. But unlike Pac, he's been winning all these fights. Yeah, his reflexes and skills aren't the same but "washed up fighter" for me is when a fighter can't win fights that he was SUPPOSED to win. As a result this fighter lose. See, when a fighter losing the fight that he was expected to win, it's a clear evidence that he's not on the same level

                Yeah, all fighters are getting weaker with time, but nobody would call a boxer washed up if he's still good enough to protect his crown. But if he's getting defeated and losing his abilities as a result of that, people start saying that he's washed up

                Pacquiao lost way more of his boxing skills as a result of that KO than Mayweather lost his skills as a result of aging. This is the main difference for me. You might have different opinion though, but here's my opinion and there's no point in arguing about that

                And yeah, both of them (Floyd and Mayweather) are not the same as before. It's true. This is the reason why I tell you there's no need for rematch, Floyd and Pac are out of their prime. They're almost 40, they had amazing careers and they're going to be remembered as legends in boxing history. You can hate or love either of them but that's a fact. That's why we have to let them retire and wait for fresh young talents in boxing.
                Last edited by g27region; 04-27-2016, 03:06 AM.

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                • Originally posted by g27region View Post
                  I have to explain that

                  I'm not saying that Floyd is the same fighter he was 7 years ago. He's not. But unlike Pac, he's been winning all these fights. Yeah, his reflexes and skills aren't the same but "washed up fighter" for me is when a fighter can't win fights that he was SUPPOSED to win. As a result this fighter lose. See, when a fighter losing the fight that he was expected to win, it's a clear evidence that he's not on the same level

                  Yeah, all fighters are getting weaker with time, but nobody would call a boxer washed up if he's still good enough to protect his crown. But if he's getting defeated and losing his abilities as a result of that, people start saying that he's washed up

                  Pacquiao lost way more of his boxing skills as a result of that KO than Mayweather lost his skills as a result of aging. This is the main difference for me. You might have different opinion though, but here's my opinion and there's no point in arguing about that

                  And yeah, both of them (Floyd and Mayweather) are not the same as before. It's true. This is the reason why I tell you there's no need for rematch, Floyd and Pac are out of their prime. They're almost 40, they had amazing careers and they're going to be remembered as legends in boxing history. You can hate or love either of them but that's a fact. That's why we have to let them retire and wait for fresh young talents in boxing.
                  The last paragraph you forgot to mentions. Just remember, at the highest level it becomes harder. You expect Pac to beat the best out there. Who did he lose recently? To Bradley which was a hoax win, to Marquez who was actually losing that fight when he got that great equalizer or better yet finisher, and to Floyd who arguably Pac has evidence pointing to him winning it or at least a close battle with a torn rotator cuff to boot

                  Case in point.

                  Doctor's analysis of how Pac had to endure the pain of that partial thickness rotator cuff tare.



                  http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12849868

                  Pac fought through pain and gave all he can handle with just one healthy arm against Floyd.

                  Now your point they are old and battle worn is so true. Pac's shoulder tore due to wear and tear. I can respect if you don't want another rematch.

                  But think about this, they are arguably still the best 2 boxers in the game at present. You are rarely given a chance to witness in your lifetime to watch 2 of the best the sport has to offer fight in the same division. As for me I will take it. Not just to settle the score, but because it will still a treat to watch.
                  Last edited by Spoon23; 04-27-2016, 04:19 AM.

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                  • There should be a rematch as these 2 should have fought 2 or 3 times that's widely accepted. Srl & Duran did, past prime whether u remember 3rd fight or not.

                    I know when they are in the ring again people will feel excitement again like they almost can't believe their eyes like its a mirage

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      There should be a rematch as these 2 should have fought 2 or 3 times that's widely accepted. Srl & Duran did, past prime whether u remember 3rd fight or not.

                      I know when they are in the ring again people will feel excitement again like they almost can't believe their eyes like its a mirage
                      It will have that effect if preconditions are met.. Which I surely doubt.

                      No Vegas judges, fight somewhere not Vegas, no bayless, no USADA but vada, no extreme hugging by Floyd. Only then will you have that excitement effect other than that. I wont want to see another scam fight.

                      If the variables are still the same, Pac won't get a fair shake so no to that, but if it's on even terms. We'll get that epic fight we all savor.

                      # wish Floyd grows a pair and fight in even terms, but that's just me being naive.
                      Last edited by Spoon23; 04-27-2016, 05:35 AM.

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