What was the difference here, really

[Lester Tutor]

putting a fl0m()'s thinking cap on, why wouldn't that be possible?
if i, as a fl0m() could scheme that the surgeon was bought and faked the surgery, floyd with his hundred millions easily could've done the above.

Nobody speaks about De La Hoya's IV against Pac because it just hurts hearing that double standard. Fine... lol

Top Rank could've easily played out the publicity that they wanted to postpone the bout and use that against Floyd if Floyd didn't wanted to acknowledge a delayed rescheduling. Or does it have to be in May Weather season? An undisclosed injury, Koncz taking the blame for the waiver, USADA never being notified about an injury because they're anti doping, which Toradol isn't a banned substance. The reason Pac wasn't allowed Toradol was because an injury was never disclosed, only when the sat down at the Post Press Conference.

You guys eat cover ups rather easily. Salt Water heals doe.

[WesternChamp]

your theory is that Floyd could buy out the judges correct? If that were so, how come no HBO head disagreed with the May 2nd outcome on FIGHT NIGHT!?? The whole boxing industry had Floyd with the win.

So, as I mocked your post which you didn't understand...common around here with sarcasm... why would you doubt the scoring cards?

The reason why I said Bradley vs Pac 1 is because THAT fight was highly controversial, with the cards in favor of Bradley, but the whole HBO community as well as industry had Pac winning. Therefore, wouldn't these complaints be inconsistent with such theories?

In other words, did Floyd buy HBO and its commentary as well as all others who scored it? You mean everyone is a sell out because Floyd pays everybody such as Kellerman, Lampley, Rafael?

Do you get it?

i think its u that is not understand my post --

how come the whole hbo agreed with the decision? paid off.

u just said it yourself. hbo all agreed with the decision right? but i thought manny was their guy though? i thought hbo is on manny's nutts all the time?

so for them to all of a sudden have a change of heart = paid off!

nexttttt!

[Lester Tutor]

i think its u that is not understand my post --

how come the whole hbo agreed with the decision? paid off.

u just said it yourself. hbo all agreed with the decision right? but i thought manny was their guy though? i thought hbo is on manny's nutts all the time?

so for them to all of a sudden have a change of heart = paid off!

nexttttt!

Oh I see. HBO turned against Pac because Floyd bought them off... either I'm not understanding your sarcasm or you just suck with nonsensical rebuttals you end up confusing yourself.

Dude lay off the crack.

[WesternChamp]

Oh I see. HBO turned against Pac because Floyd bought them off... either I'm not understanding your sarcasm or you just suck with nonsensical rebuttals you end up confusing yourself.

Dude lay off the crack.

so now pac is not hbo's #1 guy anymore? werent yall just complaining about how biased hbo is? u just said pac vs bradley 1, score card favor bradley but hbo said pac won.

so why would hbo all of a sudden hop on the mayweather train if manny is their guy? PAID OFF!

[Twako]

Nobody speaks about De La Hoya's IV against Pac because it just hurts hearing that double standard. Fine... lol

Top Rank could've easily played out the publicity that they wanted to postpone the bout and use that against Floyd if Floyd didn't wanted to acknowledge a delayed rescheduling. Or does it have to be in May Weather season? An undisclosed injury, Koncz taking the blame for the waiver, USADA never being notified about an injury because they're anti doping, which Toradol isn't a banned substance. The reason Pac wasn't allowed Toradol was because an injury was never disclosed, only when the sat down at the Post Press Conference.

You guys eat cover ups rather easily. Salt Water heals doe.

no double standards with oscar. roach was the only who presumed about the IV. it's not the same as USADA actually SEEING floyd using IV.

and nacho had this to say to boxingscene about oscar's health.
“This was a fight that should have been won. Oscar was able achieved a great physical condition during his training. I am a witness that he did not have problems with his weight and he was not dried out from the vapors [of a sauna]. During that time he had a nutritionist by his side who took charge of his weight and diet. But at the time of the fight he couldn’t do things well. He couldn’t deal with the versatility of Pacquiao.”

the rest of your post was just babble about your own double standards. but having your head far up floyd's bunghole, you probably wouldn't notice you're doing it.

[Lester Tutor]

so now pac is not hbo's #1 guy anymore? werent yall just complaining about how biased hbo is? u just said pac vs bradley 1, score card favor bradley but hbo said pac won.

so why would hbo all of a sudden hop on the mayweather train if manny is their guy? PAID OFF!

lol. You forgot what you're debatting about. Go back and read the initial posts in which you or whoever else said the judges were paid off... Let's see if there any ''last edited by...'' too.

I'll help you out. You were talking about scorecards and it being paid off by Floyd. And to answer your last question, why did HBO favor Floyd, well there's a thing called a boxing match in which people watch with their own eyes. It's pretty hard to convince an audience that Pac won... Unless rounds 4 and 6 were the highlights at the MGM.

[Lester Tutor]

no double standards with oscar. roach was the only who presumed about the IV. it's not the same as USADA actually SEEING floyd using IV.

and nacho had this to say to boxingscene about oscar's health.
“This was a fight that should have been won. Oscar was able achieved a great physical condition during his training. I am a witness that he did not have problems with his weight and he was not dried out from the vapors [of a sauna]. During that time he had a nutritionist by his side who took charge of his weight and diet. But at the time of the fight he couldn’t do things well. He couldn’t deal with the versatility of Pacquiao.”

the rest of your post was just babble about your own double standards. but having your head far up floyd's bunghole, you probably wouldn't notice you're doing it.

The point is not about performance. The point is about using the IV. I have the video and Seconds Out have the video online as well. Roach said ''I saw the IV marks in his arm, they drained him late, and there's nothing illegal about it..''

[WesternChamp]

lol. You forgot what you're debatting about. Go back and read the initial posts in which you or whoever else said the judges were paid off... Let's see if there any ''last edited by...'' too.

I'll help you out. You were talking about scorecards and it being paid off by Floyd. And to answer your last question, why did HBO favor Floyd, well there's a thing called a boxing match in which people watch with their own eyes. It's pretty hard to convince an audience that Pac won... Unless rounds 4 and 6 were the highlights at the MGM.

i quoted u saying floyd prolly paid all the judges before hand, which u thought was extremely ******ed right? just like how i feel about u thinking this shoulder injury is fake and manny is only going thru with this to act like his shoulder is really injured.

so now its pretty hard to to convince an audience? so i guess pac vs bradley 1 was fought in a basement with nobody around? u said score card favor bradley but all hbo had manny winning, so i guess this fight was fought with no audience? lol

[Twako]

The point is not about performance. The point is about using the IV. I have the video and Seconds Out have the video online as well. Roach said ''I saw the IV marks in his arm, they drained him late, and there's nothing illegal about it..''

what i said. it was only roach who assumed those were IV marks. if there was anyone else, post it here. a lot lot different from someone actually seeing floyd with an IV. no double standards there.

[Lester Tutor]

what i said. it was only roach who assumed those were IV marks. if there was anyone else, post it here. a lot lot different from someone actually seeing floyd with an IV. no double standards there.

What? Roach didn't say he was ''There'' when Oscar took the IV. He said he saw the marks...

Why didn't Kevin Iole break the Da Vinci Code when he first reported months before anybody else about Floyd's IV? He then made fun of Hauser's recent article about Haymon.

You rogue posters are defending garbage excuses. It just makes the fighters you protect look more weak.