I'm going to expose the myth that is Luis Ortiz

[Weltschmerz]

Luis Ortiz is top 5, easily. Actually his only disadvantage is the fact that he's kind of old.

[fanofslug]

Perhaps, but you also said:

As that pretender, that pauper Anthony Joshua gets KO'd, Prince Charles will be crowned the new king of england.

I just hope the Brits learned from what tony Thompson did to David price, and don't boo the USA anthem.

[Zaroku]

Damn I always figured that he was a real person and that my eyes were telling me truth when I saw him beating fools asses on my TV. Must have been all a dream...

Kinda felt the same way myself, thought I was dreaming, but Ortiz, he be a monster.

[Zaroku]

Perhaps, but you also said:

End of discussion!

[soul_survivor]

Time for a realistic unbiased look at this hype job.

Reasons why "real king Kong" is NOT the bogeyman you losers want to believe.

1. He's fat.

Yes, fat. Look at his bone structure, this is a guy who should be 225lbs, however his years on anabolic steroids blew him up. Now he's off them he's kept the weight but its around his midsection and man boobs.

2. He's slow.

This guy is a plodder. He shambles like an oaf. He's got some OK hand speed if you are right in front of him but he has NO footspeed

3. He's easy to back up.

Bryant Jennings had him backing up in straight lines with his chin in the air. What's going to happen when a power puncher puts it on him?

4. He has poor stamina.

He was breathing out of his ass at the end of the Jennings fight.

5. He's OLD

And getting older every fight.

This guy is pure hype. He reminds me of Sam peter tbh. Just a well matched, old ass Cuban Sam peter.

He'll be exposed soon.

Wilder would decapitate him

He is old and he is slow but his win over Jennings (early stoppage) puts him into the current top 10.

Is he the future? I doubt it. Can he beat someone like Chisora or Helenius? I believe so.

[Eff Pandas]

He is old and he is slow but his win over Jennings (early stoppage) puts him into the current top 10.

Is he the future? I doubt it. Can he beat someone like Chisora or Helenius? I believe so.

There's some reality I can agree with. I can see Ortiz over Chisora or Helenius or guys more or less on those guys' level & the Jennings win is impressive enough to get him some status among the top guys in the game. He's not gonna go thru a murders row of HW's like a hot knife thru butter. Don't believe the HBO hype on this one folks.

[kilojay505]

Roids are a hell of a drug

You know this is professional boxing right? You act like Ortiz is the only one on PEDS , hate to inform you but more fighters are on peds than that are not. Hell look at this weekends biggest fights AJ,Pacman.....😮

[bluebeam]

I'm going to take some joy in Ortiz losing which is a rare thing for me. I think he's WAYYYY overhyped off of his resume right now. He's done virtually nothing. Anyone halfway decent can win a title in this era so I won't say he can't win a belt or anything, but he's not gonna be the #1 guy in the division at any point like some seem to be suggesting like its destiny.

I suspect he loses to some random to semi-random guy within the next 2yrs after probably losing to a more notable guy first. He's an old, overrated, chubby, PED abuser, who's done barely anything yet. Why some are so in love with this guy is beyond my comprehension. And I'm a Cuban amateur program/boxer fanboy.

Once ortiz is ordered a title shot at the wba title. Watch how quick fury vacates the wba belt not to fight him.

[_Maxi]

I'm going to take some joy in Ortiz losing which is a rare thing for me. I think he's WAYYYY overhyped off of his resume right now. He's done virtually nothing. Anyone halfway decent can win a title in this era so I won't say he can't win a belt or anything, but he's not gonna be the #1 guy in the division at any point like some seem to be suggesting like its destiny.

I suspect he loses to some random to semi-random guy within the next 2yrs after probably losing to a more notable guy first. He's an old, overrated, chubby, PED abuser, who's done barely anything yet. Why some are so in love with this guy is beyond my comprehension. And I'm a Cuban amateur program/boxer fanboy.

Man, how can you be so naive? everyone in the HW division is on roids. Charles Martin is the only champion in years to be clean. Everyone else is on roides, everyone! you can't compete in the HW division without roids.

[BodiesInFlight]

He's highly rated by posters here.

Which means he'll be a labelled hype job within a few months.