TBE (Floyd) to Bradley: "I had it a draw"

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  • daggum
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    #111
    floyd needs to do that for his fight against pac. well no he doesn't sicne he was in the ring and knew pac was connecting cleanly and he wasn't. be nice if everyoen else saw that but people will be blind. can't stop that

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      #112
      Originally posted by daggum
      floyd needs to do that for his fight against pac. well no he doesn't sicne he was in the ring and knew pac was connecting cleanly and he wasn't. be nice if everyoen else saw that but people will be blind. can't stop that
      the reason why a lot dont see it that way is because pac is a sloppy fighter compare to floyd. pac is throwing off balance and lunging in, etc. so when floyd throws and it doesnt land or barely land on manny but since pac is already off balance, it makes it looks like floyd connected cleanly. where as when pac lands on floyd, once again its shots that are coming off balance, lunging in, so it seems like it didnt hit floyd until u watch the replay then thats when u catch it.

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      • Sun_Tzu
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        #113
        116-110, that was the right score. Manny clearly won.

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          #114
          Originally posted by WSSD
          the reason why a lot dont see it that way is because pac is a sloppy fighter compare to floyd. pac is throwing off balance and lunging in, etc. so when floyd throws and it doesnt land or barely land on manny but since pac is already off balance, it makes it looks like floyd connected cleanly. where as when pac lands on floyd, once again its shots that are coming off balance, lunging in, so it seems like it didnt hit floyd until u watch the replay then thats when u catch it.
          maybe you are right watching it live. i could see how some people could miss what is really happening due to not paying attnetion, bad streams, too many emotions but whats their excuse watcihng it again? are they just lying and pretending that pac didn't land the much cleaner punches? fanboys

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            #115
            Originally posted by WSSD
            the reason why a lot dont see it that way is because pac is a sloppy fighter compare to floyd. pac is throwing off balance and lunging in, etc. so when floyd throws and it doesnt land or barely land on manny but since pac is already off balance, it makes it looks like floyd connected cleanly. where as when pac lands on floyd, once again its shots that are coming off balance, lunging in, so it seems like it didnt hit floyd until u watch the replay then thats when u catch it.
            dude, how about you tell daggum he is fucking ******ed. Him thinking Manny beat Floyd is the same silly, petty, ******ed BS as Floyd thinking Manny/Bradley was a draw.

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              #116
              LOL Floyd, that ni**a on crack.

              He only scored it a draw because Bradley is a brutha

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                #117
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                You make some good observations but Casuals do not label Floyd boring, thats what a lot of "diehard" fans say about him on boards. Floyd fights are enjoyed the same way a U Conn womens basketball game is enjoyed-just by watching greatness dominate.

                I think the only reason fans don't tune into Klit as much (in the US) is he is a HWT and fans want to see HWT's **** each other out. He remains extremely popular in europe.

                Steward teaching Wlad to fight like that made him less suceptible to getting KO'd, which was a huge problem for him. Had he not fought that way, he doesn't have the same career.
                I understand your point.

                But I think they also want to see welterweights beat the **** out of them.

                That's what was expected in the Floyd vs Pac fight.

                And **** ended as an olympic potshotting clinchfest for 12 rounds.

                I mean, how do you fully dominate a guy for 36 rounds in a professional 147 fight, yet the guy doesn't have a single cratch on his face??

                Because you have a ****** Las Vegas ref who allows you to practice brazilian jiu jitsu half of the fight instead of trading punches, and this without having a single point deducted.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  dude, how about you tell daggum he is fucking ******ed. Him thinking Manny beat Floyd is the same silly, petty, ******ed BS as Floyd thinking Manny/Bradley was a draw.
                  if floyd has evidence that bradley landed the much cleaner punches and won 7 rounds against pac(enough for a draw) then i would take him seriously. i on the other hand have seen enough evidence on floyd-pac as i've analyzed the fight countless times. pac landed the much cleaner punches in 7 of the roudns, had better defense as he wasn't being hit very cleanly and forced floyd into clinching/bending below the waist constantly just to keep up with him(ring generalship) if your opponent has to cheat you are in control of the fight. would floyd be doing that if he was in control? no of coures not. those are the reasons pac won the fight. if someone has a legit case for bradley winning then we should hear them out. simply dismissing them because you don't agree is pretty lame. i disagree that bradley/pac was a draw but if someone shows me evidence i will at least look at it unlike you. you keep closing your eyes and ignoring the evidence that pac outboxed floyd simply because you like floyd.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                    I understand your point.

                    But I think they also want to see welterweights beat the **** out of them.

                    That's what was expected in the Floyd vs Pac fight.

                    And **** ended as an olympic potshotting clinchfest for 12 rounds.

                    I mean, how do you fully dominate a guy for 36 rounds in a professional 147 fight, yet the guy doesn't have a single cratch on his face??

                    Because you have a ****** Las Vegas ref who allows you to practice brazilian jiu jitsu half of the fight instead of trading punches, and this without having a single point deducted.
                    I completely understand your utter frustration.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      I understand your point.

                      But I think they also want to see welterweights beat the **** out of them.

                      That's what was expected in the Floyd vs Pac fight.

                      And **** ended as an olympic potshotting clinchfest for 12 rounds.


                      I mean, how do you fully dominate a guy for 36 rounds in a professional 147 fight, yet the guy doesn't have a single cratch on his face??

                      Because you have a ****** Las Vegas ref who allows you to practice brazilian jiu jitsu half of the fight instead of trading punches, and this without having a single point deducted.
                      and pac got the better of that potshot clinchfest yet he lost only because he was expected to do better. high standards lost him that fight. everyone knew floyd was boring so they just thoght he was winning without actually judging the action in the ring. and yes if bayless had warned/taken points early from floyd for clinching/bending below the waist and looking at the canvas we would have got a nice litle fight. floyd would have had to fire back/use actual defense to deal with pac and he would have gotten hit more/hit pac more. obv this favors pac so he used the cheating strategy.

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