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  • deathofaclown
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    #11
    Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
    Now, I'm not saying that black boxers automatically are better. Tyson Fury is very impressive and the only 3 guys at heavyweight that I see beating him are Joshua, Wilder and Ortiz. No other black guys would beat Fury, but the fact that 3 guys who could beat him exists and that they're all black, well... Don't get too surprised when Fury loses to Joshua or Wilder. And don't get too surprised when Wilder beats Povetkin.
    Lets say Ortiz beat Fury, for every Ortiz beating Fury, you have a Kovalev beating Pascal.

    ****** thread anyway. Maybe in the past you might have had a point. Today, boxing is a worldwide sport more than ever before and there's world champions from all over the world, of all different races. Race shouldn't even come in to it. Instead of trying to create topics of segregation, why not embrace the fact it's a worldwide sport with good fighters from all kinds of places and that will continue to grow i think. It's a great thing. Sport should be a universal language and bring people together.
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    • TheBoxingXpert
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      #12
      Originally posted by deathofaclown
      Lets say Ortiz beat Fury, for every Ortiz beating Fury, you have a Kovalev beating Pascal.

      ****** thread anyway. Boxing is a worldwide sport and there's world champions from all over the world, of all different races. Race shouldn't even come in to it. Instead of trying to create topics of segregation, why not embrace the fact it's a worldwide sport with good fighters from all kinds of places. It's a great thing.
      For every Pascal that gets beaten by Kovalev, there is a Stevenson or Andre Ward waiting. And which white person will then beat them? As I said earlier, black fighters are not automatically better, but the best are always black. Ward will completely outbox Kovalev. What will your reason be when that happens?

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        #13
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        Lets say Ortiz beat Fury, for every Ortiz beating Fury, you have a Kovalev beating Pascal.

        ****** thread anyway. Maybe in the past you might have had a point. Today, boxing is a worldwide sport more than ever before and there's world champions from all over the world, of all different races. Race shouldn't even come in to it. Instead of trying to create topics of segregation, why not embrace the fact it's a worldwide sport with good fighters from all kinds of places and that will continue to grow i think. It's a great thing. Sport should be a universal language and bring people together.
        Ortiz isnt black !

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        • TheBoxingXpert
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          #14
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Ortiz isnt black !
          Then what do you call him?

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          • tiois85
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            #15
            Yea but can you do math tho?

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              #16
              Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
              How come that black fighters always seem to be better than non-black fighters? To me, it seems impossible to explain, outside of genetics.

              Now, I'm not racist, there are some fantastic white fighters and I love warriors like Froch, but let's be honest here. There is always a better black fighter.

              We all knew deep inside that Pacquiao wouldn't beat Mayweather.
              We all know deep inside that Fury and Wladimir would get destroyed by Wilder and Joshua.
              We all know deep inside that Postol will get destroyed by Crawford.
              And while Stevenson is ducking Kovalev, I imagine him to destroy Kovalev if they fight, it's just a black thing.
              Even while old and fat, Lewis just had to crush the white hope by injuring Vitali to get the win, which still angers white people to this day.

              It's always guys like Ward and Mayweather and Lennox Lewis who are just levels above the others. We see guys like Golovkin getting a lot of love today, while they really have proved nothing. Honestly, I think Daniel Jacobs would destroy Golovkin.

              And if Canelo wasn't so popular, he would never have gotten the decisions against Lara and Trout. The pink boy got totally outboxed.

              And even in the lower weights, the Asians can't even be left alone, not even the big ones like Donaire, before the black truth hits them both from below (Rigondeaux) and above (Walters).

              Every time something good comes from Canada, it's black (Pascal and Stevenson) and USA got no good white boxers and in Europa, where there are fewer blacks than in USA, the blacks are still the best. Just see Lennox Lewis, the best european boxer ever.

              The examples are countless, but how come? Is it genetics?
              Why are you so racist?

              What if I asked you why black soccer players suck so much? When was the last time a black guy made the ballon d'or shortlist?

              Why is soccer dominated by white europeans?

              What if I asked you why black swimmers suck so much? Are they even competetive at any national level, nevermind international?

              White if I asked you why black scientists suck balls? Is there any great scientific invention or discovery that was made by a black man or woman?

              Man stfu with this nonsense! I bet you're not even a black guy, probably a white racist trying to paint the black man in a bad light and get the white man and maybe other races too hating on the black man.

              And if you are a black man/woman, then I hope you get shot by the white supremist cops that be shooting a lot of innocent black folk, of course, you're the furthest thing from innocent, you actually deserve to be shot for the racial hate that you're instigating.

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                #17
                Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                Then what do you call him?
                I dont know maybe what he is? Dominican.

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                • tiois85
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                  #18
                  Pele was waaay over rated. ...never played in top leagues. ...not even top 10 atg

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                  • TheBoxingXpert
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                    Why are you so racist?

                    What if I asked you why black soccer players suck so much? When was the last time a black guy made the ballon d'or shortlist?

                    Why is soccer dominated by white europeans?

                    What if I asked you why black swimmers suck so much? Are they even competetive at any national level, nevermind international?

                    White if I asked you why black scientists suck balls? Is there any great scientific invention or discovery that was made by a black man or woman?

                    Man stfu with this nonsense! I bet you're not even a black guy, probably a white racist trying to paint the black man in a bad light and get the white man and maybe other races too hating on the black man.

                    And if you are a black man/woman, then I hope you get shot by the white supremist cops that be shooting a lot of innocent black folk, of course, you're the furthest thing from innocent, you actually deserve to be shot for the racial hate that you're instigating.
                    Well, maybe it's a matter of genetics, too. If white people are generally better at football, despite there being many black players, then yeah, genetics must play a role. Same goes for swimming. Maybe white muscles are designed to do better at such stuff.

                    Black people are proven to run faster, though, just look at Ussain Bolt, and black people are proven to be better fighters in general, I mean, MMA is dominated by white people, but then we see guys like Anderson Silva and Jon Jones take it all away.

                    I think that our bodies are built differently.

                    Regarding science, I already said that myself. It doesn't mean that white people are smarter at all, though, it just means that they are maybe more creative and even in that area, I have to say that asian people are more creative. On the other hand, I would like to see white people survive the jungle the black people are able to. I don't think white people got the neccessary toughness to survive there.

                    I'm not trying to create hatred here, as I said, my son is half white and my girlfriend is white. I respect every race and I think our differences is a beatiful thing. But let's not deny what we all can see, man, that's just ignorant.

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                    • DJ Enerate
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                      Roberto Duran quit when Leonard's speed proved to be too much for him. That's a white hope crushed.

                      Those other ancient white fighters you mentioned were from a time when boxing skills weren't even developed fully, they wouldn't be relevant in an international and evolved version of boxing like today.

                      Now, I'm not saying that black boxers automatically are better. Tyson Fury is very impressive and the only 3 guys at heavyweight that I see beating him are Joshua, Wilder and Ortiz. No other black guys would beat Fury, but the fact that 3 guys who could beat him exists and that they're all black, well... Don't get too surprised when Fury loses to Joshua or Wilder. And don't get too surprised when Wilder beats Povetkin.
                      Roberto Duran (a natural lightweight and 70+ fight veteran) beat Leonard in the most important fight when both were at their best. Leonard evenged that lose twice against an admittedly out of shape Duran in the 2nd fight and an old as **** Duran in the 3rd fight. Duran is ranked greater than Leonard for a reason. He is.

                      Those ancient fighters you speak of were more skilled than modern fighters in many aspects. Greb I can't speak of because there's no footage but B Leonard and Pep were in ring masters and it's as clear as day on film. Their footwork puts modern fighters to complete shame. Watch footage of Jimmy Wilde, His patience and timing of the counter is phenomenal. Carlos Ortiz and Ken Buchanan were fantastic technicians and as tough as they come. Modern Boxing has evolved in terms of science, fighters are more athletic because of sports science evolution. In terms of skill and technicality modern boxing has actually declined.

                      Wilder is absolute garbage mate. Fury would school him easily.

                      I advise you to actually watch fights, mate. You won't come across as a ****** cvnt if you do.

                      If your just trolling then well done. You got me.
                      Last edited by DJ Enerate; 04-09-2016, 08:38 AM.

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