Is Teddy Atlas too much of a micromanager?

[Crazylegs77]

He obviously knows boxing seeing as how he apprenticed at the feet of the legendary Cus D'Amato.

But it seems like he stops Bradley every 5 seconds in order to correct something, it would be frustrating as hell to have to deal with that in my opinion. You never get a good flow going if you have to stop and start and stop constantly.

He annoyed fighters so much, by the time they get in the ring they are monsters. Probably Bradley is used to his wife so Teddy seems more relaxed to Tim.

[ukbox]

Atlas is a straight shooter. He's honest with his fighters rather than blowing smoke up their arse.
He told povetkin he was green. Fans, promoters & povetkin felt he was holding him back from wlad. Povetkin walked & took the fight. Wlad punched fuk out of him.
It would have been easy for atlas to collect the cheque & blame the fighter. He sticks to his guns even if it costs him. Gotta respect that

[SUBZER0ED]

Atlas was hired to teach Bradley something, apparently because Tim felt he needed to learn more. Let the teacher teach & the student learn.

[HitBattousai]

He gets a lot of attention, but how does his success REALLY compare to great trainers like Steward and Richardson?

If you're just talking quantity of great fighters trained, he's nowhere near their level. That being said, every fighter he's taken on full-time prior to Bradley(Lalonde, Moorer, Povetkin) won some version of a championship under his tutelage, his fighters combined only have one career defeat(Moorer's loss to Foreman in which Atlas had warned Moorer repeatedly about the setup that would eventually KO him) with him in their corner, and in my opinion none of those fighters were out of this world talents by any stretch.

I think Teddy is a good technical and disciplinarian type of trainer, but that type of training and coaching simply isn't for everyone. And he does in my view play up for the cameras on some of his speeches. However, in the case of Bradley, I think it's a good fit and Bradley will be at the least the most competitive with Pacquaio he's ever been in this fight, and has a good chance of pulling the mild upset. You're not going to see Bradley going crazy with haymakers or basically losing to just the Pacquaio 1-2 down the stretch this time around.

[stefl14]

The thing is, that type of training where you're correcting a guys form every 5 seconds isn't for guys in their 30s. At Bradley's age, he isn't going to suddenly dramatically change his boxing form in a fight. You can teach tactics and make little changes, but when the pressure is on in a fight a trainer can't suddenly make a 30 year old a different fighter.

[WesternChamp]

You need to iron out flaws from the start, if you don't they're harder to correct.
Back in the day you'd concentrate on footwork before you learned to throw or defend. It builds solid foundations.

yeah but there's ways of doing that. i think he could have waited until bradley takes a breather then thats when he should let bradley know what to correct on and stuff. stopping u and interrupting u every 10-15 sec is pretty annoying but if bradley can work through that then shiet that'll just make his metal game even stronger imo.

[Æthelstan]

If you're just talking quantity of great fighters trained, he's nowhere near their level. That being said, every fighter he's taken on full-time prior to Bradley(Lalonde, Moorer, Povetkin) won some version of a championship under his tutelage, his fighters combined only have one career defeat.

No they had many defeats, and never won a linear world title

Atlas quit Shannon Briggs after this loss



Teddy quit Michael Grant after this loss

[Dr Rumack]

Atlas is a straight shooter. He's honest with his fighters rather than blowing smoke up their arse.
He told povetkin he was green. Fans, promoters & povetkin felt he was holding him back from wlad. Povetkin walked & took the fight. Wlad punched fuk out of him.
It would have been easy for atlas to collect the cheque & blame the fighter. He sticks to his guns even if it costs him. Gotta respect that

Atlas is 100% full of shit. A self-aggrandising show pony. He's the most transparently self-promoting trainer in the sport, and I include Freddie Roach in that. Atlas knows how to promote himself and how to act like trainers do in movies, which appeals to some people. That fireman nonsense was classic Atlas. Absolute rubbish. Screaming canned lines at a fighter who was waltzing past his opponent with no trouble whatsoever. His whole personality is a gimmick, and no one would ever have heard of him if he hadn't been associated with Tyson.

[ukbox]

yeah but there's ways of doing that. i think he could have waited until bradley takes a breather then thats when he should let bradley know what to correct on and stuff. stopping u and interrupting u every 10-15 sec is pretty annoying but if bradley can work through that then shiet that'll just make his metal game even stronger imo.

He's working on dialing himself in. Every punch builds memory.
With a fighter like manny you can't be thinking in the now. Manny is too fast & explosive, by the time you're thinking Mannys done what he wanted.
You need to fight on instinct with **** dialed in & on point.
The approach atlas is taking is correcting the punch memory, how to set it up, land & get out of there.
If you let a fighter make mistakes & correct them afterwards then you're trying to undo something you allowed to take place. It's better to stop ASAP, correct & reset. Once corrected then drill it for perfection

[ironmike2012]

Teddy is a good trainer, some fighter just can't take the heat.
Kirkland couldn't handle Wolfe, just like the fighters that left Teddy.

He is just a no bs guy, if your messing up, he tells you.
Some people just want yes men, Bradley wants to improve, the switch of trainers was to learn some new moves from a master.