How was GGG seen in 2009-2013?

[Scipio2009]

You have to be a moron to believe that Lara can be a dangerous fight to GGG. Lara was almost put KO by Angulo. And Lara hasn't even fought at 160. If he's serious about fighting GGG he should at least negotiate when GGG is free. His team always talk about GGG when GGG has already signed for a fight.

Andre ward: "the guys are avoiding him and it's not his fault".

Good bye.

Lara has pop when he sets his left hand straight, has no qualms with moving on you, will box the **** out of you if you let him, and is tougher than folks give him credit for. Gabriel Rosado never fought at 160 when they made that fight, and Golovkin's camp seems perfectly comfortable with pursuing fights against guys who've never fought at 160, so why make Lara different?

Deny it if you want, when Golovkin has fought a guy who isn't simply stationary, right in front of him, Golovkin looks normal; beyond that, a guy who moves and gets off also shows how open Golovkin is to actually getting tagged (almost at will in spots).

Folks were avoiding him ... until they stopped avoiding him; Lara and Ward were the first, but there's now a slew of fighters open and willing to fight Golovkin. The only issue with that, for K2 anyway, is that near all of the guys ready to fight Golovkin would either beat him or make him look utterly ordinary.

Fighting Willie Monroe Jr, outside of putting some money in Golovkin's pocket, did nothing for him. If you want to argue otherwise, that's on you.

With the seeming telegraph of Alvarez vacating the WBC 160 belt after the Khan fight, Team Golovkin is going to be in a position where the WBA is going to come calling he's gonna be forced to fight a real one at some point.

[Kenchiro]

I remember I read many old articles in the last weeks about Gennady. These were from 2009-2013.

He was seen as the future MW champion by many. Or as a superb MW. Someone that was a threat and was coming to take over the MW division. Some also said things like: "yeah, he's good, let's see". That was the lowest opinion you could find about him.

Then he started unifying belts and one portion of the boxing fans started calling him overrated, someone with no resume and so on.

WTF happened. Some people are really jealous of someone's success.

2011 article/thread on Boxingscene regarding Ouma being hospitalized after fight with Golovkin: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=488752



People back in 2011 was already speaking of Golovkin being avoided.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=583211 - 2013 article/thread talking about Sturm avoiding Golovkin when he was his mandatory





Article from 2012:



Ward words towards GGG in January 2013:



Ward himself said... the guys are avoiding him, it's not his fault.

Article/thread from 2013 when GGG stopped Maclkin and broke his rib:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602669

Article/thread from 2010 when GGG was avoided by Mundine:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389917

People talking about all the good MWs avoiding Golovkin, six years ago:


I could go on forever... people was respecting him like the tremendous fighter he is. Saying how impressive he was.

But when success and recognition came after 2014, something happened.
Assh*les started to hate him badly. They hate him, they envy him. They say he's a bum. They blame him for not having big names on his resume, when even Ward himself said it was not his fault that people was avoiding him. We have fighters like Sergio Martinez saying GGG was off the charts, and so on, but they ignore it, they just hate it. And Ward, the *******, now calls him "little G".
The ****** no brainers tell him B side, and says he needs to lose weight for a fat ginger that outweights him already.

Some people is just ****** and that will never change.

Thanks for all the quotes and evidence. But it sure seems like most people don't debate with facts and logic. Your supports are in vein bro...But good try...

[_Maxi]

Lara has pop when he sets his left hand straight, has no qualms with moving on you, will box the **** out of you if you let him, and is tougher than folks give him credit for. Gabriel Rosado never fought at 160 when they made that fight, and Golovkin's camp seems perfectly comfortable with pursuing fights against guys who've never fought at 160, so why make Lara different?

Deny it if you want, when Golovkin has fought a guy who isn't simply stationary, right in front of him, Golovkin looks normal; beyond that, a guy who moves and gets off also shows how open Golovkin is to actually getting tagged (almost at will in spots).

Folks were avoiding him ... until they stopped avoiding him; Lara and Ward were the first, but there's now a slew of fighters open and willing to fight Golovkin. The only issue with that, for K2 anyway, is that near all of the guys ready to fight Golovkin would either beat him or make him look utterly ordinary.

Fighting Willie Monroe Jr, outside of putting some money in Golovkin's pocket, did nothing for him. If you want to argue otherwise, that's on you.

With the seeming telegraph of Alvarez vacating the WBC 160 belt after the Khan fight, Team Golovkin is going to be in a position where the WBA is going to come calling he's gonna be forced to fight a real one at some point.

You try to convince us that Golovkin is avoiding people? Sorry son. I will quote Ward here and say: the guys are avoiding him, not his fault.
BJS has publicly started that he needs at least 18 months to be ready for GGG. Everyone always have an excuse. He is not avoiding, he is avoided. If Lara could not hurt canelo you think he can hurt GGG? You think ángulo hits harder than GGG? GGG sends Lara to the canvas harder than ángulo did. Behave man. Stop the trolling, its too obvious.

[HeroBando]

You try to convince us that Golovkin is avoiding people? Sorry son. I will quote Ward here and say: the guys are avoiding him, not his fault.
BJS has publicly started that he needs at least 18 months to be ready for GGG. Everyone always have an excuse. He is not avoiding, he is avoided. If Lara could not hurt canelo you think he can hurt GGG? You think ángulo hits harder than GGG? GGG sends Lara to the canvas harder than ángulo did. Behave man. Stop the trolling, its too obvious.

He's also not very bright, really bad with numbers but still loves to trot them out. He can't work out that it's easier to make a fight with a no hoper who wants 150k vs 2m. Math is hard.

[Zaroku]

"Unified belts." Lol

IBO been trashed here at Boxingscene numerous times...but I guess for some fighters it's ok.

Promoted from the WBA.... beat Lemieux to "unify" an IBF. Yeah he unified all right..

To Kovalev fans stealing the belts from a 48 year old LHW is the best thing ever.

What he said!

[Mr.Fantastic]

It's when Canelo n Cotto moved up and GGG calling Floyd out when the hating really started. You have the blacks, the Mexicans, and PRs hating on him. Three strong fanbases in boxing. He wants to unify his division like other great MWs but those 3 groups want him to do something else.

[( . Y . )]

Canelo fans need to wake up and realize...they backed the wrong guy

[PulpFriction]

The simple response is that he didn't actually fight anyone. Gary Russell Jr was seen as one of the sport's best fighters and then ... he kept on having prospect-level fights and folks started to question; he steps in with Lomachenko (a fighter that folks believe is the goods), gets ourclassed, and the doubts start setting in. Russell blasts out Jhonny Gonzalez and deads that talk immediately.

Even with Andre Ward, he debuted at the end of 2004 and was moved along rather slowly up to the start of 2009 (fighting at that "top prospect" level for nearly 5 years); he kicks off 2009 with a fight with Edison Miranda (a guy who the boxing public understood was a "real one"), has a final tune up, and then has been fighting "top of the table" opposition since then.

Golovkin fought Proksa, fought Rosado ... and basically kept things at about that level since, ducking out on any dangerous fight that was short of being a money fight.

If he'd simply fought Erislandy Lara (have K2 make a serious offer for the fight, at 160, and force Lara's camp to walk away), he'd have at least one scalp worth something on his resume.

You're a fkn idiot

[Robbie Barrett]

People weren't claiming he was one of the best middleweights ever and P4P top 3 then, he still hasn't beaten anybody.

[Vasyl’s dad]

How is a guy with 13 kos, 2 losses and 2 draws to smaller men, a threat to GGG?

The reality is this, if Lara was a white Cuban, nobody would be mentioning his name.