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  • waldorf
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    #1

    Champions/ fighters are all foriegn.

    Soon the idea of african american blacks dominating pro boxing will fade and it will be domianted by east europeons... .... boxing is popular in those dark /cold/ former communist countries and they back their favorites so soon, they will take over boxng in the USA. It started with Golota and now it is kiltscko and soon more.. ......... Where's Muhmmad Ali/Larry holmes when you need them?
  • Shanus
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    #2
    Does it matter what nationality they are?
    Atleast we're one step closer to unification..

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    • !! Mr. Soprano
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      #3
      Originally posted by Shanus16
      Does it matter what nationality they are?
      Atleast we're one step closer to unification..
      To some racist pricks it does matter

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      • xzworks
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        #4
        golota a champion???dominated??

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        • Hous
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          #5
          Originally posted by !! Mr. Soprano
          To some racist pricks it does matter
          Im sure hes probley Eastern European himself, dont be soon to jump to conclusions. Besides Who was rooting for Tommy Morrison (American) vs. Lennox Lewis (British)?

          Not African Americans, no one... Why? Most likely because of his skin color, all of this was before his controvercy with Aids. I cant think of another reason why Americans would root for the Brit.

          There are racist pricks on every side...

          PS. GOLOATA!!!! HAHAHA he is a joke.

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          • BrooklynBomber
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            #6
            BTW, Ukraine is not a cold country. The weather is actually pretty nice there.

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            • 50RoX
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              #7
              lol dude its only heavyweights.... kostya was a Great 140 pounder but hes retired now and i dont see anyone in lower weight classes from eastern europe dominating like he did.

              lets look at all the top boxers from all the weight classes :


              Straweight :

              Eagle Kwoya = Japenese

              Ivan Calderon = Peurto Rican


              Light flyweight :

              Roberto Vasquez = Panamian

              Hugo Cazares = Mexican


              Flyweight :

              Lorenzo Parra = Venezuela

              Vic Darchinyan = armenian/Australian

              Jorge Arce = Mexican

              Omar Narvaez = Argentinian


              Super Flyweight :

              Martin Castillo = Mexican

              Jose navarro = American

              Masamori Tokuyama = Japenese

              Alex munoz = Venezuela


              Bantamweight :

              Rafael Marquez : Mexican

              Silence mabuza = South african

              Jhonny gonzalez = Mexican

              Wladimir Sidorenko(keeps gettin Gift DEcs and only fights in germany but i will still count him as a top bantamweight) = Ukraine

              Super bantamweight :

              Israel Vasquez : Mexican

              Oscar Larios(soon to move up to 130) = Mexican


              Featherweight :

              Juan manuel Marquez = Mexican

              Chris john(got a Gift dec but still good enuff featherweight ) = Indonesian

              Valdemir Pereira = Brazil

              Scott harrison = British


              Super feather :

              Manny pacquaio = Philippine

              Marco Antonio Barrera = Mexican

              Jorge Rodrigo Barrios = Argentinian

              Erik Morales = Mexican


              Lightweigt :

              Juan Diaz = American

              Jose luis castillo = Mexican

              Diego Corrales = AMerican

              popo Freitas = Brazilian

              Zahir raheem = American

              Jesus Chavez = Mexican


              Junior Welterweight :

              Ricky Hatton = British

              Miguel Cotto = Peurto Rican


              Welterweight :

              Zab judah = american

              Floyd mayweather = American

              antonio Margarito = Mexican

              Carlos Baldomir = Argentinian


              Junior middleweight :

              Oscar de la hoya = american

              Ricardo mayorga = Nicaragua

              Shane mosely = american

              Kassim ouma = Ugandan

              Roman Karmazin = Russian


              Middleweight :

              Winky wright = American

              Jermain taylor = American

              Bernard hopkins = American


              Super middleweight =

              Joe Calzaghe = British

              Jeff lacy = American

              Beyer = German




              Light heavyweight :

              Tarver = American

              Glen johnson = Barbados


              Cruiser :

              Jean marc mormec = French

              O neil bell = Jamaican/American


              Vassiliy Jirov = Kazakhstani


              Heavyweight =

              Wlad Klitschko = Ukraine

              Lamon brewster = American

              Hasim rahman = American

              Serguei Lyakhovich = Belarus



              Now tell me how many Eastern europeans are in this list . only 4(5 if u count jirov but kazakhastan is in central asia not eeastern europe). (and remember i was being generous to include Wladimir Sidorenko). yeah if this is what you call domination then may god help you


              and p.s dont even ask me why i didnt include Valuev in this list



              Peace
              50RoX

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              • Abe Attell
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                #8
                It really doesn't matter where a fighter comes from as long as he can perform well...it is all about great fighters fighting great fights.

                For African American heavyweights, it may have to do something with the best big athletes are in the NFL. Boxing doesn't protect their clients like the NFL does, thus making it about "security" for the athlete.

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                • enadeus
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                  #9
                  I doubt it will happen that fast, maybe in 10-20 years it will be more even. Asian + European fighters are already doing good. Pacquiao, Calzhage and Vitali+Wlad are probably the most known out of the bunch right now.

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                  • Hous
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by enadeus
                    I doubt it will happen that fast, maybe in 10-20 years it will be more even. Asian + European fighters are already doing good. Pacquiao, Calzhage and Vitali+Wlad are probably the most known out of the bunch right now.
                    The thing about the weight classes is it is rare to see a European that is below 5'7, same with the Africans. They dont tend to have many competitors in lower divisions for genetic reasons.

                    And when you have like 20 divisions between the weight of 105 - 140 you will of course have less European / African champions. Of course I was eing sarcastic about the 20, the actual number is 10.

                    So no Europeans will never dominate Boxing.

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