Elite Pros That Would Suck in Amateur Style Boxing

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    Elite Pros That Would Suck in Amateur Style Boxing

    Most of the forum think the pros would batter amateurs.

    Who are some pros with styles that don't translate well under amateur boxing system?
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    #2
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    Most of the forum think the pros would batter amateurs.

    Who are some pros with styles that don't translate well under amateur boxing system?
    Most of them can't handle the pace of a three round fight. Look at Loma, his toughest fight as a pro came against an amateur in Albert Selimov under WSB.

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    • -Hyperion-
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      #3
      Originally posted by pesticid
      Most of them can't handle the pace of a three round fight. Look at Loma, his toughest fight as a pro came against an amateur in Albert Selimov under WSB.
      LOL....last time I checked, Salido beat him.

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      • LoadedWraps
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        #4
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
        Most of the forum think the pros would batter amateurs.

        Who are some pros with styles that don't translate well under amateur boxing system?
        Your question doesn't make any sense. If they are elite, it's obvious that they have certain traits that allow them to reach elite status, they would dominate in both areas. This question doesn't work because the pros is the same as amateurs but with more rounds, and a focus on damaging your opponent instead of only points scoring, but you are still punching, and getting punched. The dynamics are the same, as well as everything else except a few minor details that are supposed to protect amateurs, but that doesn't change much in reality. Pro is the higher level of the same sport.

        If this was a trap thread in which you have a pre-loaded reply of "well X fighter is a brawler so won't he lose in point scoring in the amateurs?" is a moot point because you shot yourself in the foot by saying "elite" off the bat, which means they were elite enough to overcome technical deficiencies to win titles. Suggesting they couldn't turn around and overcome technical deficiencies to win an amateur fight would be absurd. Even a one dimensional brawler who ISN'T elite like Bam Bam Rios would stop most amateurs cold before the end of a 4 round fight, and the ones who can hang, probably have deep enough resumes to turn pro and do quote well, like a Rigo/Loma type guy on the end of his amateur career.

        Do this: Ask the first person you come across IRL if they think any "elite pros" in the NBA can translate their skillset and win in the D-league or college ball. Or if they think any "elite pros" in the NBA can translate their game to 21, or half court ball.

        Or ask them if they think "elite pros" from La Liga, or Premiere League can translate their game to canchita. Or if "elite pros" from the NFL can translate their game and be successful in flag football.

        If they don't do something along the lines of roll their eyes/slap you/tell you that's a ****** question/mockingly entertain the ridiculous idea , I will be both very impressed, and be the first to admit that this isn't a moronic question. Because it is.

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          Chavez Jr.

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            #6
            Originally posted by -Hyperion-
            LOL....last time I checked, Salido beat him.
            Salido would not be allowed to use his illegal tactics in the amateurs. They actually follow the rules.

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            • GrandpaBernard
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              #7
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              Even a one dimensional brawler who ISN'T elite like Bam Bam Rios would stop most amateurs cold before the end of a 4 round fight
              Rios was a good amateur. He's proven under that system.

              Saul Alvarez. Limited amateur background that doesn't include the international level. I'm not convinced he'd be a star in the Olympics.
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              Do this: Ask the first person you come across IRL if they think any "elite pros" in the NBA can translate their skillset and win in the D-league or college ball. Or if they think any "elite pros" in the NBA can translate their game to 21, or half court ball.

              Or ask them if they think "elite pros" from La Liga, or Premiere League can translate their game to canchita. Or if "elite pros" from the NFL can translate their game and be successful in flag football.

              If they don't do something along the lines of roll their eyes/slap you/tell you that's a ****** question/mockingly entertain the ridiculous idea , I will be both very impressed, and be the first to admit that this isn't a moronic question. Because it is.
              A stranger can tell you how to think and you need my help to find one.

              What a pathetic plea. Smack yourself.

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              • boliodogs
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                The very best pros might not have to worry about the silly amateur scoring system. They have 3 rounds to score a KO and a KO is a KO even in the amateurs. I am against pros fighting in the Olympics but nobody can stop them from competing if they want to.

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                • IFightDirty
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                  Your question doesn't make any sense. If they are elite, it's obvious that they have certain traits that allow them to reach elite status, they would dominate in both areas. This question doesn't work because the pros is the same as amateurs but with more rounds, and a focus on damaging your opponent instead of only points scoring, but you are still punching, and getting punched. The dynamics are the same, as well as everything else except a few minor details that are supposed to protect amateurs, but that doesn't change much in reality. Pro is the higher level of the same sport.

                  If this was a trap thread in which you have a pre-loaded reply of "well X fighter is a brawler so won't he lose in point scoring in the amateurs?" is a moot point because you shot yourself in the foot by saying "elite" off the bat, which means they were elite enough to overcome technical deficiencies to win titles. Suggesting they couldn't turn around and overcome technical deficiencies to win an amateur fight would be absurd. Even a one dimensional brawler who ISN'T elite like Bam Bam Rios would stop most amateurs cold before the end of a 4 round fight, and the ones who can hang, probably have deep enough resumes to turn pro and do quote well, like a Rigo/Loma type guy on the end of his amateur career.

                  Do this: Ask the first person you come across IRL if they think any "elite pros" in the NBA can translate their skillset and win in the D-league or college ball. Or if they think any "elite pros" in the NBA can translate their game to 21, or half court ball.

                  Or ask them if they think "elite pros" from La Liga, or Premiere League can translate their game to canchita. Or if "elite pros" from the NFL can translate their game and be successful in flag football.

                  If they don't do something along the lines of roll their eyes/slap you/tell you that's a ****** question/mockingly entertain the ridiculous idea , I will be both very impressed, and be the first to admit that this isn't a moronic question. Because it is.
                  100% true. Any b-c level pro boxer would KO most AM's excluding the elite ones who's been in the system for many years like Rigo/Lomo. Like you said if an amateur is good enough to beat a pro in the AM's they would probably beat them in the pro style due to their advanced skillset regardless of the setting of the bout.

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    Most cud just slug it out and wear the kid down

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