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  • FeelTheA-Force
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    #11
    Originally posted by enadeus
    He was trying to break Wlad down by going to the body, and he thought that he would allow Wlad to run out of stamina and tried to block his shots with his gloves, which was not effective. Eventually he got hit enough times in the head that his entire strategy was just...no strategy at all. Then he got knocked down and was out of the fight from that point.

    I heard his corner screaming...ANGLE SHOTS!...but oh well Wlad breaks down boxers with his punches thats what he's done his entire career. His punch strenght is highly underated.
    omg you really to love the BITCHKO;S

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    • The Coagulator
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      #12
      That was one thing I didnt understand...yes Byrd was hurt bad in the 7th and yes his back was to the ref and when he turned around he was dazed but what about at least a standing 8 count, there was still time left in the round and maybe just maybe he could have made it to his corner b4 the 8th round to give his dad a chance to work on the cut and the noose bleed and the swell. I see this problem all the time...trainers working cuts...I believe in the 3 man system...in that system one man (the assistant) works the icebag the spit bucket and water over the head and dries up the corner as the bell rings...the cutman addresses any issues or possible issues such as the fighter keeps taking shots to the same part of the face..I'll start working the endswell b4 it swells, prevention makes a good cutman a great cutman (Lou Duva says a great cutman has the gift of foresight)...any cuts worked and then greases him up for the next round...the trainer takes care of the drinking water and the stool and is the only one who should be giving instructions...this is the best way to handle a corner...any other way just isnt the same as 3 people all with assigned tasks get the job done and get em out there...as far as Byrd...he needed a separate cutman..we are talking a swell under the right eye, a huge cut over the left and one nostril was bleeding...I would have immediately gone to work on the cut with coagulant, got my swab in position and applied heavy pressure, then I would have swabbed his nose with coagulant and then I would have grabbed my endswell from my corner jacket pocket and applied heavy direct pressure to the swell under the right eye and then just b4 the bell, coagulated vasiline into the cut so it can work during the round...problem is...my coagulants would have been working harder than Byrd. Just callin it like I see it...

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      • The Coagulator
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        #13
        Please dont misunderstand me...I am not saying that I am a better cutman than the legendary Joe Byrd...I would have handled it differently, his attention was divided between too many responsibilities, and any trainer that does both cuts and instructs and hydrates...falls under that same thing...Goosen in Diego Corrales's coener when he beat Castillo...same thing, Corrales had a huge swell that didnt recieve the attention I think it needed, and did you also notice that in the second fight between these guys...there was one of my idols.....Jacob Stitch Duran....they learned their lesson the first time around...ended up they didnt need him much...fight was over b4 it started....

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        • enadeus
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          #14
          Originally posted by 2tough
          omg you really to love the BITCHKO;S
          Thats nice to hear...but in reality I'm not a huge fan of either boxer. I'm more of a fan of some of the young Russian heavyweight prospects.

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          • The Coagulator
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            #15
            I would have never guessed...lol

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            • The Coagulator
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              #16
              Ukraine doesnt count as Russian? I ask because I am niave about how the Soviet Union has been broken up..so to speak...

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              • BrooklynBomber
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                #17
                Ukraine is not a part of Russia
                Its like saying that mexicans and puerto ricans are the same because they are all people of south America.
                But Russians root for them too.

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                • Deeznuts
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                  #18
                  Byrd 's wife summarized his performance. "Byrd you're fighting ******"

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                  • beez721
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Coagulator
                    Chris Byrd sat right in front of Klitchko all night. Byrd is famous for his ability to avoid being hit flush, not always, but thats his schtick...thats what he's best at, then he comes in the ring and takes a seat on a park bench and gets completely throttled by Klitchko. Why would he do this...it makes no sense. He would have done at least better bringing his punches from different angles. WHY?
                    becuase he tried moving and boxing him last time and it didnt work. so,,this time he decided to sit and trade and it turned out even worse. it was a shoot or be shot strategy and he got shot down

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                    • beez721
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Coagulator
                      hey enadeus...that wasnt his corner that was his extremely loud extremely useless wife from the first row of seats. Actually I wonder if Klitchko beat Byrd or did his wife and father lose it for him...LOL...his dad wasnt very helpfull..and I hate to say it cuz in my home state of Michigan...Joe Byrd is a living legend. Well, anyway, Byrd got hios payday, now he can go home, do some gardening and let his wife scream at him from the kitchen window...LOL...
                      lol,,,,when his wife yelled at him in the corner "chris you need to work on the inside" I was waiting for papa byrd to shout back,,"shut up you ****** *****,,,,Im the trainor here". that was ridiculous. who the hell does she think she is. thats just embarrassing and humiliating to the fighter. if she was my wife,,,she'd have divorce papers so fast it would make her head spin

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