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  • Was Pacquiao a Joe Frasier

    Not in fighting style, but in the sense that he would have dominated the HW division if it wasn't for Ali. Would Pacquiao have reigned supreme if there was no Mayweather?

  • #2
    Originally posted by fanofslug View Post
    Not in fighting style, but in the sense that he would have dominated the HW division if it wasn't for Ali. Would Pacquiao have reigned supreme if there was no Mayweather?
    He also got destroyed by someone else like Frazier. Marquez = Foreman

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    • #3
      Pacquiao did dominate the WW from 2009 to 2012. Floyd did regain control of the division until about maybe 2013, but even then it took him 2 more years to step up.

      And Ali hardly dominated Heavyweight after his return to the sport. He lost to Frazier and never could get a clean victory over Norton, many people believe Norton won the series.

      Frazier and Manny have little in common, Manny is the man of his era across all weight classes while Frazier was just a great heavyweight.

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      • #4
        there was no mayweather for almost his entire career and he dominated ww a lot more than floyd. floyd's ww resume was utter trash until pac which easily could have gone to the other way

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        • #5
          Mind changed.

          Frazier beat his nemesis one time. manny couldn't do it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
            Pacquiao did dominate the WW from 2009 to 2012. Floyd did regain control of the division until about maybe 2013, but even then it took him 2 more years to step up.

            And Ali hardly dominated Heavyweight after his return to the sport. He lost to Frazier and never could get a clean victory over Norton, many people believe Norton won the series.

            Frazier and Manny have little in common, Manny is the man of his era across all weight classes while Frazier was just a great heavyweight.
            After Ali retired Foreman there was a possibility of Frasier dominating the HW if it wasn't for Ali-Frasier 3? Similarly, if there was no Mayweather around 2010 Manny would have been dominant. 2009-2012 WW was more of a coming out party for Manny, he was just settling in. Thanks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fanofslug View Post
              After Ali retired Foreman there was a possibility of Frasier dominating the HW if it wasn't for Ali-Frasier 3? Similarly, if there was no Mayweather around 2010 Manny would have been dominant. 2009-2012 WW was more of a coming out party for Manny, he was just settling in. Thanks.
              He literally beat every top WW doing that time. The era Manny dominated was the WW era Cotto, Clottey, Mosley, and Margarito.

              The one Mayweather went on to dominate was one going through a transition period. It's unfortunate Mayweather didn't fight the best of his WW era but rather the young less proven guys on the come up who all went on to do nothing afterwards.

              You can say the two ruled the division as 1A and 1B but Manny was p4p number 1 from 2008 to 2012, he remained #1 even after "losing" to Bradley. Thanks for the reply.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                there was no mayweather for almost his entire career and he dominated ww a lot more than floyd. floyd's ww resume was utter trash until pac which easily could have gone to the other way
                Makes 0 damn sense..Floyd won every single title at ww and was a 2 time lineal champion there...Manny Beat 2 ww champions in Cotto and Bradley..thats it

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
                  He literally beat every top WW doing that time. The era Manny dominated was the WW era Cotto, Clottey, Mosley, and Margarito.

                  The one Mayweather went on to dominate was one going through a transition period. It's unfortunate Mayweather didn't fight the best of his WW era but rather the young less proven guys on the come up who all went on to do nothing afterwards.

                  You can say the two ruled the division as 1A and 1B but Manny was p4p number 1 from 2008 to 2012, he remained #1 even after "losing" to Bradley. Thanks for the reply.
                  lol..Floyd beat more top ww's then Manny by a large margin

                  You listed Mosley who was coming off of a loss and a draw??
                  Clottey coming off of a loss
                  Margarito coming off of a ko and a suspension at 150?? makes no sense what you just posted..floyd beat

                  Baldo-lineal champ,wbc champ
                  Mosely-wba champ
                  Ortiz-wbc champ
                  Maidana-wba champ
                  Manny-wbo champ
                  Judah-ibf champ

                  how can you even compare the 2?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by larrys.o.g View Post
                    lol..Floyd beat more top ww's then Manny by a large margin

                    You listed Mosley who was coming off of a loss and a draw??
                    Clottey coming off of a loss
                    Margarito coming off of a ko and a suspension at 150?? makes no sense what you just posted..floyd beat

                    Baldo-lineal champ,wbc champ
                    Mosely-wba champ
                    Ortiz-wbc champ
                    Maidana-wba champ
                    Manny-wbo champ
                    Judah-ibf champ

                    how can you even compare the 2?
                    Clottey coming off a loss is still better than Ortiz and Guerreroe.

                    Fuq a Baldomir, it's Judah fault he won a title. Clottey also beat Judah's ass. He was also beating Baldomir's ass before that bull**** DQ.

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