Arthur Abraham - a look at his career

[MRBOOMER]

My point in doing it was to shut up the Golovkin fanboy who came to hate on Arthur in my thread. But it doesn't matter.

How do you rate Abraham among the best middleweights ever?

Who's your best mw ever you mean in general or do you have a list ?

[K-Nan]

MW was very poor at the time. Sylvester was a top 5 mainstay. You had guys like Lorenzo, Asikainen in the Ring top 10

MW had Taylor, Abraham, Pavlik, Miranda... And they were always thrown into the hypothetical mix of 168 (which was the best division at the time)

[TheBoxingXpert]

Who's your best mw ever you mean in general or do you have a list ?

1: Roy Jones Jr.
2: Sugar Ray Leonard
3: Marvin Hagler
4: Bernard Hopkins

Other than that, I'm not sure.

[Real King Kong]

My point in doing it was to shut up the Golovkin fanboy who came to hate on Arthur in my thread. But it doesn't matter.

How do you rate Abraham among the best middleweights ever?

Best middleweights ever? Not very high. His opposition at mw was not elite. His best wins at mw were against guys who were never quite a-class. He's a tough guy with an awkward style, but he's always gonna come up short against elite opposition imo.

[K-Nan]

1: Roy Jones Jr.
2: Sugar Ray Leonard
3: Marvin Hagler
4: Bernard Hopkins

Other than that, I'm not sure.

5. Carlos muthaphuckin Monzon

[El-blanco]

My point in doing it was to shut up the Golovkin fanboy who came to hate on Arthur in my thread. But it doesn't matter.

How do you rate Abraham among the best middleweights ever?

In a few days of being on this site you've talked about golovkin more than I ever have. I watch boxing for entertainment I personally don't give a **** about any fighter. That's your job, to obsess over them.

The point of your thread was to take a shot at golovkin by talking about Abraham. It's clear as day and you even admitted as such without me even bringing up golovkin.

[Real King Kong]

1: Roy Jones Jr.
2: Sugar Ray Leonard
3: Marvin Hagler
4: Bernard Hopkins

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Leonard...seriously?

[Cutthroat]

I wonder if he has neanderthal ancestry, probably does because of the area he's from.

[Box-Office]

Abraham was never the guy at MW, with fights against Taylor (at 160) and Pavlik, never happening. That's sad but he has had a terrific career. A two weight title holder with a good resume and solid power, not to mention some serious balls.

Certified, second tier HOFer.

.......in Armenia

[SugarRayCurtain]

Arthur Abraham had quite an amazing career so far. At 160lbs, he was the king of the division, due to his power, defense, chin and heart. He defeated a lot of guys, including Edison Miranda (who was an undefeated knockout machine back then), and made his heart known by 12th round decisioning him with a broken jaw that he received early in the fight. His final record at 160lbs was 31(24)-0.

He then moved up to 168lbs, despite being at a massive size disadvantage there. Did he move up to duck someone? No. He moved up to compete in the Super Six Tournament against the toughest opponents in the 168lbs divison, in what would be one of the best boxing eras in the history of the division. He was not the same deadly force at 168lbs as at 160lbs, due to being a small fighter there, but Arthur Abraham only lost to elite guys like Carl Froch, Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell, all by decision, due to his toughness. He did KO Jermain Taylor, though, which was very impressive, as Taylor had looked good in his last fight against Froch.

Since then, Arthur has proven his worth by beating Robert Stieglitz and while losing 1 time, he made more than up for it by beating Stieglitz 3 times in what was an amazing and exciting series of action-packed battles.

Now, though, he is an old lion, small and slow. There is still some power left and the skills are there, but he has slowed down. He is facing the younger, much bigger and undefeated Mexican Gilberto Ramirez next. This is a very dangerous fight for Arthur Abraham, but if he wins, he can retire with a very good resume and a very great career to look back at.

had no idea you took time out of ur day to post on these boards
hi Arthur