The Erik Morales vs. Juan Manuel Marquez Debate

[Dr Rumack]

marquez is the better fighter head to head

most people only know marquez from 130 lbs + where he looked mad slow

look at how he fast and explosive he was at 127, dude was a freak of nature at that weight

morales never really impressed me tbh, but ppl just like his style of fighting

barrera is better than morales

Erik Morales never impressed you? FFS.

[ramses07]

Erik Morales never impressed you? FFS.

Not as a technician. like i said he had a fan friendly style.

[-PBP-]

Not as a technician. like i said he had a fan friendly style.

You just ain't studying hard enough, bruh. Know your Morales and understand what he's doing. The feints he uses, how he sets up his combos, how he sets traps, how he creates openings.

Morales is the definition of a master technician if you know what your watching.

[just the facts]

oooooooooo....**** just got real....these two for me are the top 10 mexican fighters of all time.

i have to think on this one

Great fighters no doubt, but better than Chavez Sr or Ricardo Lopez?

[therealpugilist]

These two were great, but The Baby-Faced Assassin bested them both. Jay Nady robbed Barrera against Marquez by not calling the KD. Only Pacquiao ever clearly owned Marco.

i like barrera two but these guys were able to beat fighters that MAB couldnt. MAB is right up there with them but IMO just behind them.

[therealpugilist]

Great fighters no doubt, but better than Chavez Sr or Ricardo Lopez?

i was saying they were top ten

I have Lopez over Chavez and Chavez over and Barrera

I swip swap MORALES and Chavez all the time

JMM is behind Lopez but ahead of ahead of the other guys imo

LOPEZ had the consistency and was dominant vs some good little fighters

Chavez technically lost a few of his big ones...got a gift draw vs whitaker and arguably lost to juan laporte and rocky lockridge in close fights


Lopez was the great straw weight of all time and if you are considered the best in any weight class in history, you should be near the top in ATG lists


p4p lopez is the most complete mexican fighter of all time

[therealpugilist]

You just ain't studying hard enough, bruh. Know your Morales and understand what he's doing. The feints he uses, how he sets up his combos, how he sets traps, how he creates openings.

Morales is the definition of a master technician if you know what your watching.

i always admired the way he could alter his right hand in mid swing and his punch variety....he was very skilful and exciting to boot.


his feints were very good too

[therealpugilist]

marquez is the better fighter head to head

most people only know marquez from 130 lbs + where he looked mad slow

look at how he fast and explosive he was at 127, dude was a freak of nature at that weight

morales never really impressed me tbh, but ppl just like his style of fighting

barrera is better than morales

JMM was so impressive at 126....some fighters throw a counter punch...he threw counter combos....some of the sweetest off a slip ive ever seen and he had every punch in the book at his disposal

[-PBP-]

i always admired the way he could alter his right hand in mid swing and his punch variety....he was very skilful and exciting to boot.


his feints were very good too

Yeah. You don't have to like him but I can't let these dudes get away with trying to downplay his skill level.

[therealpugilist]

Yeah. You don't have to like him but I can't let these dudes get away with trying to downplay his skill level.

all it takes is one great fight and an aggressive dispostition and you
ll be relegated to a cave man i guess.....Morales was one of the most skill fighters in a deep era...sometimes his warrior side got in the way....If he didnt war with Barrera so much he couldve won the series IMO....he had the advantage outside and Barrera had it inside with his hooks and short shots.....well he wouldnt be el terrible fighting like a mini ward i guess