DBN exposes Kimas and Lomachenko

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Video is all based on assumption and no facts. Klimas is under no obligation to tell anyone how much his fighter is making. But if you think that he's making 1M then you're beyond delusional. Espinosa offered up 1.1M for the fight. That alone should tell you what the market value for a fight of this level is. And yes, Lomachenko is getting paid more, as dan rafael pointed out on Twitter, but it's not that much more. The Rigo situation isn't all that similar . Rigo wanted more money but he wasn't willing to move up, he wanted a catch weight and rehydration clause on top of that. Funny how a couple weeks ago Rigo said he would move up to 126 to fight leo but when it came to lomachenko it was 124 and rehydration. Why is that? That's a question I want dontaes to answer but he won't even cover it.

Exactly. That's how most of Dontaesracistnation's videos are. He's to quick on trying to "expose" fighters/people he doesn't like for obvious reasons that he says things out of his ass and his fans believe everything he says even when he doesn't have an real evidence.
I remember he said Rigo chased Nonito Donaire away from 118. Rigo has not even fought at 118 as a professional though (so that was one of the many lies he says), but Rigo has fought at 126 before.
Rigo wanted 1.5 million for the fight for the Loma fight. I remember Rigo's team was taunting Loma at one point and telling Loma that they would offer the money for the fight, but they didn't offer crap.
Great post.

[xhiddenx87]

Another "DBN exposes" thread, u dont get it right? DBN exposes sh.it...now he plays the promoter game...FOH...

I get it, 500K to these fights is a bit low...but don't try to make us think that one side is the one ducking the other...

[STAX ON DECK]

DBN always stay exposing these hoes

plus he reps the LBC so i cant hate,,respesct

[TheCell8]

Exactly. That's how most of Dontaesracistnation's videos are. He's to quick on trying to "expose" fighters/people he doesn't like for obvious reasons that he says things out of his ass and his fans believe everything he says even when he doesn't have an real evidence.
I remember he said Rigo chased Nonito Donaire away from 118. Rigo has not even fought at 118 as a professional though (so that was one of the many lies he says), but Rigo has fought at 126 before.
Rigo wanted 1.5 million for the fight for the Loma fight. I remember Rigo's team was taunting Loma at one point and telling Loma that they would offer the money for the fight, but they didn't offer crap.
Great post.

He's a spinmaster who twists the truth to support his narrative.

As you pointed out, he was totally bull****ting about Rigo "chasing Donaire to 122".

Donaire moved up to Super Bantamweight in Feb. 2012 to face Vasquez Jr.

Rigo moved up to Super Bantamweight in 2009. He was at the weight class 3 years before Donaire started campaigning. Yet according to Dontae he chased Donaire up. So that was a huge lie.

Another example of his twisting the truth is when he says that Canelo is ducking Demetrius Andrade. What's his proof of this? Demetrius Andrade called him a bitch on a video posted on youtube. So apparently Canelo is somehow supposed to aware of every fighter that calls him out and he has to respond to them immediately and accept their challenge otherwise he's ducking? They didn't even come close to negotiating.

Then there's the whole Rigo situation. Rigo wouldn't fight Lomachenko for a host of reasons. One was money, the other was about a CW and Rehydration clause. He was apparently adamant that the fight take place at 124 CW, with a 10 lb rehydration clause. At least that's what his manager said.

Yet a month ago, Rigo said he would have no problem moving up to 126 to fight Leo Santa Cruz. Why? Why is he willing to fight LSC at 126, but with Loma it has to be 124 and a 10 lb rehydration clause? People rip Golovkin for doing this with Froch and Chavez, but turn the other cheek and don't even mention when Rigo pulls it.

Dontae hasn't even reported this, and I think we both know why.

Also, and this is rich, according to Dontae, Roman Gonzalez doesn't have enough top fighters around his weight class to make a legitimate case for the no.1 P4P spot. Obviously Dontae has never heard of Inoue, cause he's not that hardcore of a boxing fan. But anyway, according to him he should move up 2 weight classes and fight Rigo to prove his P4P status. How laughable is that?

The guy is a total hack.

[dirty fingers]

Da Brothas Nation is so racist.

[HanzGruber]

Video is all based on assumption and no facts. Klimas is under no obligation to tell anyone how much his fighter is making. But if you think that he's making 1M then you're beyond delusional. Espinosa offered up 1.1M for the fight. That alone should tell you what the market value for a fight of this level is. And yes, Lomachenko is getting paid more, as dan rafael pointed out on Twitter, but it's not that much more. The Rigo situation isn't all that similar . Rigo wanted more money but he wasn't willing to move up, he wanted a catch weight and rehydration clause on top of that. Funny how a couple weeks ago Rigo said he would move up to 126 to fight leo but when it came to lomachenko it was 124 and rehydration. Why is that? That's a question I want dontaes to answer but he won't even cover it.

Klimas and loma said the weight wasn't an issue with rigo it was money. But now klimas said loma deserves way more money since he's moving up in weight lol

Is that not hypocritical

[RetroSpeed05]

Klimas and loma said the weight wasn't an issue with rigo it was money. But now klimas said loma deserves way more money since he's moving up in weight lol

Is that not hypocritical

Yes because 124 cw was agreed upon everything was agreed upon on Lomas end. Rigo wanted 1.5 mil or more for that fight, pricing himself out for a guy who no one wants to watch but hardcores, but of course he doesn't mention that. Also Rigo saying they come down to him he is the champ, but lets see if he goes up to 126 for LSC.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

He's a spinmaster who twists the truth to support his narrative.

As you pointed out, he was totally bull****ting about Rigo "chasing Donaire to 122".

Donaire moved up to Super Bantamweight in Feb. 2012 to face Vasquez Jr.

Rigo moved up to Super Bantamweight in 2009. He was at the weight class 3 years before Donaire started campaigning. Yet according to Dontae he chased Donaire up. So that was a huge lie.

Another example of his twisting the truth is when he says that Canelo is ducking Demetrius Andrade. What's his proof of this? Demetrius Andrade called him a bitch on a video posted on youtube. So apparently Canelo is somehow supposed to aware of every fighter that calls him out and he has to respond to them immediately and accept their challenge otherwise he's ducking? They didn't even come close to negotiating.

Then there's the whole Rigo situation. Rigo wouldn't fight Lomachenko for a host of reasons. One was money, the other was about a CW and Rehydration clause. He was apparently adamant that the fight take place at 124 CW, with a 10 lb rehydration clause. At least that's what his manager said.

Yet a month ago, Rigo said he would have no problem moving up to 126 to fight Leo Santa Cruz. Why? Why is he willing to fight LSC at 126, but with Loma it has to be 124 and a 10 lb rehydration clause? People rip Golovkin for doing this with Froch and Chavez, but turn the other cheek and don't even mention when Rigo pulls it.

Dontae hasn't even reported this, and I think we both know why.

Also, and this is rich, according to Dontae, Roman Gonzalez doesn't have enough top fighters around his weight class to make a legitimate case for the no.1 P4P spot. Obviously Dontae has never heard of Inoue, cause he's not that hardcore of a boxing fan. But anyway, according to him he should move up 2 weight classes and fight Rigo to prove his P4P status. How laughable is that?

The guy is a total hack.

Excellent post, man. If I could I would give you more Green K.

I don't know why Rigo fans crap on Nonito. Donaire was the only that was willing to give him a chance. According to these guys though, Nonito was ducking Rigo for years before the fight finally happened. I don't know how that's possible since Nonito was fighting at 112, 115, and 118. He was the one moving up. Maybe they could have fought in 2012, but if it wasn't for that great year (2012, in which he won the Fighter of the Year) Nonito had, then the Donaire-Rigondeaux fight would not have been so highly anticipated like it was in 2013.
Rigo also won his title in 2012, so he had to build himself up a little as well.

According to his logic then the Charlo's and Lara are also ducking Andrade.
Funny how he doesn't mention them though, but is quick to say Canelo is ducking Andrade because of a video.

I couldn't have said anything in the bold any better.

Remember when people were saying that Loma was also ducking Rigo? Their tune changed quickly as soon as Loma called Rigo's bluff. Then the excuses and demands started from team Rigo and fans.
Santa Cruz, Frampton, and Quigg definitely didn't want any part of Rigo, but I have no idea why they were trying to include Loma in that list at one point. Now it seems like they don't want to remember that.

I'm not a Chocolatito fan, but it's obvious he has several opponents left at 112/115. Like you said, Inoue is there. Estrada II, Ruenroeng, Ioka, Cuadras are all there for Roman as well. People keep pointing out how small Rigo is and I remember several people used to say he could make 112/115 if he wanted to, so here is his chance to prove it. People rip GGG because other people have said the now famous "anyone from 154-168 thing", but why does Rigo get a pass with what people used to say about him. "Oh Rigo could make 112/115 if he wanted to" and "He would beat anyone at 135 and below".
He only follows certain weight classes and I think we should know what those weight classes are. If you were to ask him which are the best divisions in boxing he would probably say Welterweight, Light Middleweight and Light Heavyweight.
People say that certain weight divisions are weak, because they don't know any of the fighters.
How dumb does that sound? That could be said for anyone weight class.

[Citizen Koba]

So you didn't watch the video. You read the title and defended Lomamchenko like the fanboy you accused Domtae of being

Read my ammended post. You said there was a lie. I was just checking we were talking about the same thing. There was no lie.

And I wasn't actually defending Loma, just pointing out that Dontae's no more a reliable or impartial source than others.

[Citizen Koba]

Klimas and loma said the weight wasn't an issue with rigo it was money. But now klimas said loma deserves way more money since he's moving up in weight lol

Is that not hypocritical

More money because as Klimas stresses but Dontae fails to mention in his analysis, Loma is the champion and is moving up.

All other things being equal the champion usually gets the bigger cut. This is the norm.

I'm not even trying to defend Loma - I'm not really a fan although I think he's an exceptional boxer - more pointing out the fallacy in the thread title and Dontae's little ways of bending the truth to his own ends. Not that he's the only one to do this of course.