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Golovkin Needs TO MOVE UP IN WEIGHT TO BE GREAT, "THAT'S WHAT WE DID" - Mike McCallum

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  • #41
    Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
    somebody needs to do an intervention on the TS, because his obsession with GGG is really out of control. Every morning he gets up and within 5 minutes is probably in a cold sweat panicking right up until he thinks of a topic for the daily GGG thread.

    Let it go. You'll feel better.
    awww shut up....you cant handle the truth, dont enter the thread...I made two GGG threads the last 2 weeks....stop exaggerating because Golovkin left you in charge of damage control when he is beating his meat

    McCallum gave his prospective...he is an ATG, a HOFer, and I respect his opinion. Dont like it ...dont watch....dont like the thread, dont read it

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      They all bait its part of getting decent video , McCallum was a great fighter and very avoided I understand exactly what he is saying , why do GGG fans get irate when a great fighter is telling the truth .

      I,ll interpret it for you ,

      GGG aint fought anyone yet he is a great prospect and a hell of a good fighter , the best out there at MW right now from a weak bunch and he dont dare challenge himself to be great by moving up to fight better quality opposition where he is no longer the bully .

      How the fck can anybody argue with that , especially coming from the perspective of Mike McCallum .
      Has kovalev moved up..there is still things to do at 160 so no need to move up yet, he just wants to be the best 160 guy first. The fact that he can beat any168 guy right now doesn't mean he has to.
      Floyd don't want to and didn't want to fight all the 147 guys who'd give him a good challenge that's why he's asked to go for the big boy ggg.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Has kovalev moved up..there is still things to do at 160 so no need to move up yet, he just wants to be the best 160 guy first. The fact that he can beat any168 guy right now doesn't mean he has to.
        Floyd don't want to and didn't want to fight all the 147 guys who'd give him a good challenge that's why he's asked to go for the big boy ggg.
        Kovalev is in a better position to be in fights that matter...most 168ers move up...like Pascal he started there, Hopkins started at 160 settled at 175, and Degale and Jack are large guys at 168...Add Ward, Beterbiev, Chilemba etc and you see there is no need to...if Stevenson stops playing around he is out there too

        160 is a decent weight but for some reason fights arent getting made are demands, negotiations, $$$....if GGG cant get them guys he can move up. Fights with Ramirez, Degale, Jack, Abraham are more interesting that Mandatory defense and the other belt holders wont fight him.

        Im not sure if BJS was saying .5 mill or 1.5 million but if it was .5 as a titleholder and both of us are undefeated I'd ask for more too.

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        • #44
          What a novel idea! He should move up and fight... who exactly? Take a look at rankings for SMW and tell me which fight has a high likelihood of being made (or at least, higher than Canelo, Jacobs or BJS).

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          • #45
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Has kovalev moved up..there is still things to do at 160 so no need to move up yet, he just wants to be the best 160 guy first. The fact that he can beat any168 guy right now doesn't mean he has to.
            Floyd don't want to and didn't want to fight all the 147 guys who'd give him a good challenge that's why he's asked to go for the big boy ggg.
            it's Carnivore again! How many alts do you have brah?

            The ''fact'' that Lil'G can beat any 168? Yo when Newton dropped an apple to formalize opinions on Gravitation those empirical measurements are known as fact. An old man sat on a bench. Did he sit down? Yes, he sat down. When children are taught the basics of grammar they use examples of facts to describe a point or common sense.

            So, when did Lil'G fight at 168 for it to be fact? I know you love trolling just to troll, but you don't find it a waste of time?

            How many Lineal belts does Floyd have at different weights? C'mon mate, stop taking the piss with your multiple alts guvnor...

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfl1ksujfEA&t=3m05s

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            • #46
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              Difference is McCallum faced quite a few names in his career. G hasn't fought anybody, and not for lack of competition. He just doesn't want to face certain fighters.

              This was a guy that almost beat a prime Toney. No small feat. McCallum was a straight up beast. His war against Michael Watson was a thing of beauty.
              Who exactly in his division has he refused to face?

              Called out Cotto when Cotto was the MW champ. Cotto ducked.

              Called out Saunders for unification. Saunders ducked.

              Was scheduled to face Tureano Johnson. Johnson got injured.

              Has been calling out Canelo for the past 2yrs. Canelo doesnt seem interested in fighting him.

              Kid Chocolate when asked about facing GGG stated that it would take LOTS of $$$ to get in the ring with GGG. I call that pricing yourself out.

              Danny Jacobs is another top dog in GGG's division but for some reason I see no GGG critics/haters asking for this bout. Why?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Who exactly in his division has he refused to face?

                Called out Cotto when Cotto was the MW champ. Cotto ducked.
                Normal for Middleweights champs wanting the opportunity for a Lineal. Cotto only made 2 defenses with the last one losing to Alvarez. Did we hear headlines that Cotto wanted a unification for Lee's WBO? Was the Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam's vacant IBF even possible to arrange, meaning Cotto wanting a unification for a vacant IBF belt opportunity? What about headlines for Cotto and Jacobs WBA (not Super) wanting a unification bout? First voluntary defense they went with Geale or was it a mando!? Alvarez bout would make much more than a Lil'G bout. Isn't this the philosophy from Abel? ''hey it's a business, we're not going to fight for chump change.''

                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Called out Saunders for unification. Saunders ducked.
                Saunders still has the WBO. lol. Saunders is calling out GGG now... don't follow headline dramas or Loeffler wanting to give Saunders, the undefeated, chump change like a Loma vs Walters bout..

                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Was scheduled to face Tureano Johnson. Johnson got injured.
                irrelevant. no one even mentioned ''ducking'' with relation to an injury. don't influence others to write hopeful tactics like that...

                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Has been calling out Canelo for the past 2yrs. Canelo doesnt seem interested in fighting him.
                Where are you even getting this?! Since when did Loeffler, Sanchez, or Lil'G say they wanted a 154 fighter such as Alvarez when Alvarez wasn't even fighting a 160 division? I forgot, ''154-160'' easy doe... tsk tsk

                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Kid Chocolate when asked about facing GGG stated that it would take LOTS of $$$ to get in the ring with GGG. I call that pricing yourself out.
                Peter Quilin made it specific between HBO and Showtime, or even more apparent, the Haymon fighter. This is where I know you're trolling or you're just ill-informed. Quillin said ''if the money is right.'' Not ''Lots'' as you bold it. You should follow the politics of purses more closely.

                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Danny Jacobs is another top dog in GGG's division but for some reason I see no GGG critics/haters asking for this bout. Why?
                You need to follow the forum more often, and Jacobs is on record for stating he is the more slick boxer than Lil'G. Perhaps you should be asking, why hasn't Abel, Loeffler, or Lil'G been asking for Jacobs!? Oh I see, it's because Lil'G has the Super WBA, there's no need for him to fight Jacobs correct?

                You're welcome.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                  Who exactly in his division has he refused to face?

                  Here we go.

                  Canelo offered the fight at Caneloweight. GGG refused. I don't want to hear about "fight at 160". Point is, Canelo offered the fight at Caneloweight and GGG refused. Multiple times. Excuse.

                  Ward called out GGG plenty at 168. GGG refused and Abel refused because they want more money. Duck. "Lil G"

                  Saunders is on record saying he'll fight GGG, but not at a catchweight and the money's got to make sense. Saunders is division champion. He has the right to make that call.

                  Eubank is on record saying he'll fight GGG, but not at a catchweight and only after he beats Saunders.

                  B-Hop called out GGG (I don't want to see this, but still). Refused.

                  Lara has been calling out G for what seems like forever. Refused.



                  See, Abel/GGG just want cherry picks OR big money for quality fighters. Problem is GGG isn't marquee yet to be making those demands. He needs to beat a quality opponent, a BIG name, so that he can get that swag to call shots like that. If he beat any of the above I just mentioned, convincingly, he then can go on to become the A-side that people assume he is.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by revelated View Post
                    Here we go.

                    Canelo offered the fight at Caneloweight. GGG refused. I don't want to hear about "fight at 160". Point is, Canelo offered the fight at Caneloweight and GGG refused. Multiple times. Excuse.

                    Ward called out GGG plenty at 168. GGG refused and Abel refused because they want more money. Duck. "Lil G"

                    Saunders is on record saying he'll fight GGG, but not at a catchweight and the money's got to make sense. Saunders is division champion. He has the right to make that call.

                    Eubank is on record saying he'll fight GGG, but not at a catchweight and only after he beats Saunders.

                    B-Hop called out GGG (I don't want to see this, but still). Refused.

                    Lara has been calling out G for what seems like forever. Refused.



                    See, Abel/GGG just want cherry picks OR big money for quality fighters. Problem is GGG isn't marquee yet to be making those demands. He needs to beat a quality opponent, a BIG name, so that he can get that swag to call shots like that. If he beat any of the above I just mentioned, convincingly, he then can go on to become the A-side that people assume he is.
                    there are certain fights he wants....idk why people think he'll fight anyone, anywhere for any amount of money


                    he is a prizefighter...its about what makes business since and Abel made that clear....as far as canelito GGG has to be realistic....Canelo can make good money wit or without him...every great fighter had to concede before they became a star....why do K2 and Sanchez think GGG is a big star and demands so much money when his PPV tanked and just walk outside and ask 10 people who he is.....maybe one or two will know who he is.

                    GGG can make the weight obviously...its one month out and he is 164 and not even straining to make weight

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by revelated View Post
                      Here we go.

                      Canelo offered the fight at Caneloweight. GGG refused. I don't want to hear about "fight at 160". Point is, Canelo offered the fight at Caneloweight and GGG refused. Multiple times. Excuse.

                      Ward called out GGG plenty at 168. GGG refused and Abel refused because they want more money. Duck. "Lil G"

                      Saunders is on record saying he'll fight GGG, but not at a catchweight and the money's got to make sense. Saunders is division champion. He has the right to make that call.

                      Eubank is on record saying he'll fight GGG, but not at a catchweight and only after he beats Saunders.

                      B-Hop called out GGG (I don't want to see this, but still). Refused.

                      Lara has been calling out G for what seems like forever. Refused.



                      See, Abel/GGG just want cherry picks OR big money for quality fighters. Problem is GGG isn't marquee yet to be making those demands. He needs to beat a quality opponent, a BIG name, so that he can get that swag to call shots like that. If he beat any of the above I just mentioned, convincingly, he then can go on to become the A-side that people assume he is.

                      You are 100% full of ****. There is not, and has not been a fight offer on the table from Canelo at 155, or ANY weight. All their is is press statements that IF he fights GGG it would have to be at 155.

                      Again, THERE IS NO OFFER ON THE TABLE dummy

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