Brook Holding His Own Against Higher Level Opposition...

[GrandpaBernard]

Brook showed he was already higher than the Porter level of fighter. It's the same level that DA once occupied and Thurman may be at.

He can certainly beat Garcia imo.

Khan is a very tough fight, depending on how Khan looks next and doesn't suffer too much.

I reckon both Bradley and Pacquiao beat him. However, Pacquiao is at that stage when he can age drastically in one span of 36 minutes.

who's DA

Angel's son would be super easy for Kell. He has the style to be outboxed.

Second easiest is Amir. Kell gives him a boxing lesson before knocking him out.

Kell-manny is of interest. Brook has the tools to emulate Floyd.

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Porter is old news

Let Kell fight Keith and Timmeh

More like Brook is old news. Porter fought AB and is fighting Thurman, meanwhile Brook is beating bums and holding his belt hostage at home.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Brook is 50/50 or better vs any welter in the world...


Brook vs bradley, khan, thurman, manny are all winnable fights for Brook

[soul_survivor]

who's DA

Angel's son would be super easy for Kell. He has the style to be outboxed.

Second easiest is Amir. Kell gives him a boxing lesson before knocking him out.

Kell-manny is of interest. Brook has the tools to emulate Floyd.

You are over hyping Kell.

There was a time when he looked THIS special but that was 4 years ago. Since then his reflexes have slowed, he isn't as fleet footed and relies largely on his size and power.
That means he can beat a lot of top welters but that won't make him a Pac or Floyd level of fighter.

[GrandpaBernard]

More like Brook is old news. Porter fought AB and is fighting Thurman, meanwhile Brook is beating bums and holding his belt hostage at home.

You are over hyping Kell.

There was a time when he looked THIS special but that was 4 years ago. Since then his reflexes have slowed, he isn't as fleet footed and relies largely on his size and power.
That means he can beat a lot of top welters but that won't make him a Pac or Floyd level of fighter.

Remember this thread.

Both of you are welcome to bet me that Amir, Porter, and DANI don't get their azzes kicked by Brook if any of those fights materialize

[soul_survivor]

Remember this thread.

Both of you are welcome to bet me that Amir, Porter, and DANI don't get their azzes kicked by Brook if any of those fights materialize

I already said that Brook would beat Garcia and he has already beaten Porter.

WIth Amir, depending on what happens with Canelo and he isn't hurt too bad, it's a close, 50-50 or 60-40 either way kinda fighter.

You're not predicting anything amazing kid.

If Brook absolutely dominates Garcia and Khan and proves he is somehow on the level of a great like Pacquiao, then I'll more than happily re-quote this thread.

[GrandpaBernard]

I already said that Brook would beat Garcia and he has already beaten Porter.

WIth Amir, depending on what happens with Canelo and he isn't hurt too bad, it's a close, 50-50 or 60-40 either way kinda fighter.

You're not predicting anything amazing kid.

If Brook absolutely dominates Garcia and Khan and proves he is somehow on the level of a great like Pacquiao, then I'll more than happily re-quote this thread.

What's your thinking behind this one?

I don't see Amir being able to do anything vs a better jabber who also has good countering skills.

[soul_survivor]

What's your thinking behind this one?

I don't see Amir being able to do anything vs a better jabber who also has good countering skills.

I think it's a 50-50 or 60-40 kinda fight for either guy if both of them are at their best.

Agreed that Brook not only has the better jab but also the superior counter punching skill. But Khan has the speed to disrupt KBs rhythm AND the superior footwork and foot speed. Brook is pretty stationary these days and doesn't have the reflexes he did versus Matty Hatton. Older, slower.

Khan is still fleet of foot and hand so, like any guy with those attributes, he can out point the slower guy. Brook however has, imo anyway, the key factor here: power. If he can make his power tell and consistently push KHan back, he could KO him late or even outpoint.

Basically, it's a perfect style clash.

[GrandpaBernard]

I think it's a 50-50 or 60-40 kinda fight for either guy if both of them are at their best.

Agreed that Brook not only has the better jab but also the superior counter punching skill. But Khan has the speed to disrupt KBs rhythm AND the superior footwork and foot speed. Brook is pretty stationary these days and doesn't have the reflexes he did versus Matty Hatton. Older, slower.

Khan is still fleet of foot and hand so, like any guy with those attributes, he can out point the slower guy. Brook however has, imo anyway, the key factor here: power. If he can make his power tell and consistently push KHan back, he could KO him late or even outpoint.

Basically, it's a perfect style clash.

Don't see him outmaneuvering Kell enough to make it hard for the latter.

Limited footwork guy Garcia, who doesn't even have a jab, laid Amir's azz out early on.

Kell has easy time here.

[Redd Foxx]

It's hard to say anything about Brook because we've seen him in ONE good fight. He's one of these guys who gets talked about a lot but has not done much and fought two absolute cans in the year and a half following his getting the title.
Maybe he's top shelf but there's no way to know. He's certainly not going out of his way to prove it.