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  • ИATAS
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    #71
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    cmon bro, you been around here long enough to know that with a certain handful of posters the only thing that matters is that GGG is not black, therefore OF COURSE its his fault lol
    I know when people make their minds up about something it's usually going to stay that way. It's funny though, Golovkin only fights bums and is overrated but needs all the PEDs to be this good lol. It's Mayweather and Pacquiao all over again (both sides were downright nasty to each fighter making up the most ridiculous claims to downplay whichever fighter they didn't like). I really dislike this part about NSB, where everything is so extreme (either you're the best or a bum, a cheater or mother Teresa and so on). It just makes it a vile place. Why can't we just view fighters as they are, all with their own individual strengths and weaknesses?

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #72
      Originally posted by OnePunch
      we all know the reason you are posting this......
      Put it this way...

      If, god forbid, something were to happen really bad to Wade, does his family have a right to convey such details to a high class lawyer?

      I would love to hear VADA's reasoning and the WBC's...

      There is a thing called consistency. Especially for a sport that's particularly dangerous.

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      • AddiX
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        #73
        Originally posted by ИATAS
        There have been numerous times where additional testing was argued by both sides and either took a while to figure out or didn't happen at all (Hopkins vs Pascal, Peter Quillin vs Winky Wright, etc).
        it's a little different in the case of Quillin/wright.

        Random testing had begun in that fight the way that was contracted.

        All of a sudden haymons team tells wright that random testing is off, and when USADA refused to show Quillins test results, or no one has given an explanation as to why they stopped testing.

        A lot of people believe Quillin tested positive and when USADA told haymons team, they just agreed to stop testing and pretend it never happened.

        Many people believe that this is basically how USADA and Haymon have agreed to operate. They say there doing random testing but it's a bunch of bs.

        We saw this with USADA/Floyd also.

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          #74
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          Put it this way...

          If, god forbid, something were to happen really bad to Wade, does his family have a right to convey such details to a high class lawyer?

          I would love to hear VADA's reasoning and the WBC's...

          There is a thing called consistency. Especially for a sport that's particularly dangerous.
          maybe VADA would just give him an exception a few weeks after the fact.... oh, wait.....

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            #75
            Originally posted by mike1010011
            So now what happens to all those people on the other threads,crying about how ggg doesn't take tests,and he's suspect? Will they eat crow,or act like it never happened?
            A better question is, if GGG pisses hot, what will Floyd, Ward, Eubank and Canelo say/do? We'll never hear the end of it.

            I can't wait.

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            • ИATAS
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              #76
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              You're saying both fights Golovkin and his opponent didn't agree to testing before signing the fight and took them until the last month to agree?

              No i'm saying the testing being delayed is more than likely intentional by Golovkin and a good reason for that is PEDs.
              Then that means you're making a massive jump in conclusions. Glad you can at least admit that.

              The promoters have to iron the testing out. Golovkin isn't the person making the deal with Al Haymon on when/where/how additional drug testing is implemented, if any. The fighters do their job and the management does there's. Again, we have two sides here so it's on both sides AND on VADA. What we shouldn't do is go around making baseless accusations without all the details, because that would be reckless.

              What we need is to have the promoters/managers removed completely from the process. If this is to work it needs to be handled by the WBC/VADA and leave it out of the negotiations.
              Last edited by ИATAS; 03-26-2016, 03:28 PM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by AddiX
                it's a little different in the case of Quillin/wright.

                Random testing had begun in that fight the way that was contracted.

                All of a sudden haymons team tells wright that random testing is off, and when USADA refused to show Quillins test results, or no one has given an explanation as to why they stopped testing.

                A lot of people believe Quillin tested positive and when USADA told haymons team, they just agreed to stop testing and pretend it never happened.

                Many people believe that this is basically how USADA and Haymon have agreed to operate. They say there doing random testing but it's a bunch of bs.

                We saw this with USADA/Floyd also.
                Yeah, the whole thing was shady but if I remember correctly, testing wasn't even agreed to until a week or two before the fight, then as you say suddenly stopped. Regardless, it was an example of additional testing implemented really late.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by ИATAS
                  Then that means you're making a massive jump in conclusions. Glad you can at least admit that.

                  The promoters have to iron the testing out. Golovkin isn't the person making the deal with Al Haymon on when/where/how additional drug testing is implemented, if any. The fighters do their job and the management does there's. Again, we have two sides here so it's on both sides AND on VADA. What we shouldn't do is go around making baseless accusations without all the details, because that would be reckless.
                  Haymon wasn't involved in the Lemeiux fight, now you want to blame VADA?

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                  • AddiX
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ИATAS
                    Yeah, the whole thing was shady but if I remember correctly, testing wasn't even agreed to until a week or two before the fight, then as you say suddenly stopped. Regardless, it was an example of additional testing implemented really late.
                    Nah it was in the original contract. Haymons team basically told wright he can either take the fight or not, but drug testing was off.

                    That's the djfferece between VADA and USADA.

                    Once VADA has there start date, they can test you anytime they want, they don't allow retroactive TUE's and most importantly they can do CIR testing anytime they want.

                    All these fighters demanding USADA > VADA are dirty.

                    Which doesn't mean you can't be dirty with VADA, but you won't even think of letting them test you until you know your completely clean.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by AddiX
                      Nah it was in the original contract. Haymons team basically told wright he can either take the fight or not, but drug testing was off.

                      That's the djfferece between VADA and USADA.

                      Once VADA has there start date, they can test you anytime they want, they don't allow retroactive TUE's and most importantly they can do CIR testing anytime they want.

                      All these fighters demanding USADA > VADA are dirty.

                      Which doesn't mean you can't be dirty with VADA, but you won't even think of letting them test you until you know your completely clean.
                      A good reason for Golovkin to delay testing.

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