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  • #11
    Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
    You sure it's only used to lose weight? It's a bronchodilator and those can be used as PEDs.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clenbuterol
    In humans, based on the dosages that can be taken, Clen does nothing but shift weight. It's usually not used until near the end of a cut to up your body temperature to help lose the last few lbs. The oxygen transportation is very minimal, it is far from worth using given the side effects.

    Severe muscle cramps that will make it impossible to train hard ( I'm talking crippling pain within minutes), insomnia, heart palpitations, insanely high heart rate....it's a virtually useless drug for a HW.

    If he was going to cheat there are many, many drugs that would give him performance boosts along with weight loss. Clen makes zero sense.

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    • #12
      Lmao! like they needed a plan B to discredit the win - Chagaev was the heavy favorite in this fight and clearly the better more accomplished boxer - but it was a set up! NSB pseudo intellectuals are certified chemist! BwhaHahA!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
        You sure it's only used to lose weight? It's a bronchodilator and those can be used as PEDs.
        Only in people with chronic breathing conditions, "This drug does not enhance cardiovascular efficiency in healthy individuals; in fact, a 1987 study showed that clenbuterol can reduce endurance and exercise duration."

        It's used to strip fat and water and retain muscle, I've known a few guys that have used it and no doubt if you were trying to fit into a weight class it would be great.

        I'm not saying he didn't use it, but it would be a really ****** drug to use if he was trying to gain an edge as a Heavyweight.

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        • #14
          Chagaev should have used that drug because he was fat as hell....

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          • #15
            Truth is a persons career can be ruined these days just by slipping something in a VADA A sample. Samples submitted to VADA either need to be more secure or someone is just looking the other way.

            There is a list of Boxers who have failed a VADA test recently.
            If a promoter or manager isn't slipping something in a test sample, then someone at VADA is getting paid to look the other way while someone tampers. Which one is it?

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            • #16
              It's no coincidence he was the lightest weight of his entire career and just happens to be caught using a weight-loss drug which is one of the most popular drugs among fighters and athletes in general. Erik Morales tested positive for the same drug.

              It's probable that he wasn't advised correctly by whoever supplied him the drug as to how long it takes to clean out the system, or indeed about the benefits of the drug itself. Bad info from his supplier or strength and conditioning coach.

              I'd hope it's some sort of mistake with the testing but all the evidence points towards Browne being a cheat.

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              • #17
                They simply need to sort out doing on site sampling and testing. The B sample could be taken an hour or 2 later as a follow up. Food contamination is so rare, as far contaminating meat... It takes 100x as much taken by the cow to actually ingest and show + signs in a human. That is what Morales was claiming, anyway. Interesting notes on the drug gmc_rfc_06
                Last edited by BoxngLove; 03-23-2016, 01:07 PM. Reason: Read up on clen..

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber View Post
                  I'd normally say yeah, whatever, but there was so much shadiness going on in that fight that I'm willing to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt here. At least until further evidence emerges.
                  Yeah because Russia is the only one corrupt, If it happens in America will you give people a pass for it?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler.UK View Post
                    Yeah because Russia is the only one corrupt, If it happens in America will you give people a pass for it?
                    I'm not letting Lucas off the hook. I'm saying that, considering all the dodgy stuff that went on in this fight, I'd like some more evidence either way before I form an opinion. Nothing to do with where it occurred.

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                    • #20
                      I don't believe him. He drastically improved.

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