Lol @ boxing, Cotto and Canelo are the "superstars"

[Earl-Hickey]

I mean thats just sad

PBF already exposed both these oafs as the slow, lumbering,low iq fighters that they are

Where the love @ for Wider, crawford, ward , speence

Thes are the top fighters in boxing man, style, speed,power and intellegence, tis what you want in a fighte r not these average pugs man

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I mean thats just sad

PBF already exposed both these oafs as the slow, lumbering,low iq fighters that they are

Where the love @ for Wider, crawford, ward , speence

Thes are the top fighters in boxing man, style, speed,power and intellegence, tis what you want in a fighte r not these average pugs man

The guys you mentioned don't sell the amount of tickets, or get the PPv buys, ratings etc as Cotto or canelo..

Lmao at spence,,, his next big fight will be his first...

Ward should be a star but he ruined brand with the goossen lawsuits and inactivity

Wilder should be a much bigger star than he is,, I think he has been mispromoted... He should have been on the televised undercard of every floyd fight for the past few years

[about.thousands]

They're boxing stars not superstars. Floyd and Manny both did over 1 mil PPV with Cotto. Floyd did over 2 mil with Canelo. Combined they couldn't even do a million. They aren't superstars.

[Eff Pandas]

They're boxing stars not superstars. Floyd and Manny both did over 1 mil PPV with Cotto. Floyd did over 2 mil with Canelo. Combined they couldn't even do a million. They aren't superstars.

Its all relative. I can't think of too many fights that do 800k-900k like Canelo vs Cotto did so who's bigger than them exactly? I think for sure Manny, Canelo & Cotto are the 3 biggest stars in boxing, or at least they are if we are basing that on PPV buys or potentional PPV buys.

[about.thousands]

Its all relative. I can't think of too many fights that do 800k-900k like Canelo vs Cotto did so who's bigger than them exactly? I think for sure Manny, Canelo & Cotto are the 3 biggest stars in boxing, or at least they are if we are basing that on PPV buys or potentional PPV buys.

Nobody is bigger than they are but they aren't superstars. Superstars transcend the sport. If you see Floyd, Tyson, Holyfield, Pacquioa on the street the average soccer mom will know who they are. If you see Cotto and Canelo on the street the average soccer mom will think they look familiar but can't recall where she's seen them

[Sugar Adam Ali]

They're boxing stars not superstars. Floyd and Manny both did over 1 mil PPV with Cotto. Floyd did over 2 mil with Canelo. Combined they couldn't even do a million. They aren't superstars.

Its all relative. I can't think of too many fights that do 800k-900k like Canelo vs Cotto did so who's bigger than them exactly? I think for sure Manny, Canelo & Cotto are the 3 biggest stars in boxing, or at least they are if we are basing that on PPV buys or potentional PPV buys.

It just shows the sad state of boxing in America,, in the first time in history, It doesn't have any legit superstars..

Ali-fab 4-tyson-Oscar-floyd/manny-??????

Cotto v Canelo was widely regarded as the biggest super fight in boxing after floyd/manny yet it sold about as well as floyd v Berto/ghost

[Monaco Slim]

boxing stars, not super stars

[Psylence83]

You mean where's the love for the black dudes?

[Sledgeweather17]

I mean thats just sad

PBF already exposed both these oafs as the slow, lumbering,low iq fighters that they are

Where the love @ for Wider, crawford, ward , speence

Thes are the top fighters in boxing man, style, speed,power and intellegence, tis what you want in a fighte r not these average pugs man

Crawford aint **** man. Talent wise yes but achievement wise? Come on man. The Gamboa fight was catapulting him in the right direction, but then he blew all that steam away by fighting nothing but bums after that. Even now he could be trying to unify with Postol and then moving up to welterweight and making a name for himself in that stacked division, but he only seems interested in fighting bums.

Wilder I understand your grievances. He should be bigger than he currently is. I understand why he fought guys like Dehaupus and Molina, coz he was still recovering from that right hand surgery that he had that put him out for six months after winning the title against Stirvirne (he barely threw a right hand in the Molina fight). But even though I understand why, it doesn't mean those fights didn't coz his drawing power to lose some steam.

I agree with the guy that said that they should have used Floyd undercards to promote Wilder as an up and comer, but nevertheless, the Povetkin fight will put his career back on track, especially if he KTFO Povetkin. After that it is up to he himself and his managers/promoters to do their job and get his name further out there. To be honest America itself has to play its role. I don't feel like the country itself as showing as much love as it should for its first heavyweight world champion in like almost a decade. Just look how the Polish supported Szpilka and he wasn't even a champion, just a contender. Wilder should start appearing on every other tv add and endorsements should be flying in left right and centre after he beats Povetkin. A cameo big movie appearance or two should be in line (don't like to pull the race card but lets face it, all this would happen if he was a white american heavyweight champ).

Spence? Come on dawg Spence is where he should be at. He aint beaten nobody and he aint even got a world championship belt yet. His time will come, he is stepping up and fighting Algieri now. Next up should be the loser of Porter/Thurman, than the winner of that fight and he can start unifying from there. He'll be a star, just be patient.

Ward only has himself to blame for the inactivity, well not entirely, injuries and contractual disputes are most of the time inevitable, nothing you can do when they come about. However, it doesn't change the fact that he has been inactive a long time.

Some might make the argument that Floyd was inactive for long spells too. However, Floyd came back and fought p4p ranked opponents and/or world champions every time he returned from inactivity, those same guys often coming from fight of the year/career performances (ie. Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Canelo, Maidana, Pac, Guerrero (not a champ or pound for pound, but a mandatory and coming from a super winning performance).

Ward came back from inactivity and fought some super middleweight bum at a 172 catchweight, and now he is fighting Barrera. Compare that to Floyd coming back from a two year lay off to fight the pound for pound ranked number 2 in Marquez? And then the p4p ranked Mosley who had just demolished Margarito in a career best performance. Ward did great in the super six and against Chad Dawson, but that was YEARS ago. He needs to rebuild. If he beats Kovalev and still don't get the star power he deserves, only then can you complain.

Fact is some of these American guys are killing their own momentum. Just look at Demetrius Andrade for example. Hopefully Robert Easter's career and Spence follows a different pattern.