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  • Smashing
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    Super Heavy Weight Division

    Do you think that there will be a need for a proffesional Super Heavy Weight Division.
    Intersting article below.

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  • LondonRingRules
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    #2
    How about a TittyBoy division for fattyboy Toney? That way he could have a special championship bra made to fit him and have enough money to hire Boozo as his manservant to keep his title bra properly polished.

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    • Smashing
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      #3
      lol...oh the images..funny stuff..

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      • potatoes
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        #4
        Originally posted by Smashing
        Do you think that there will be a need for a proffesional Super Heavy Weight Division.
        Intersting article below.

        http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/5305466?GT1=7840


        Yeah, there should be a separate division for vulnernable giants Primo Carnera who would get seriously injured by tiny little boxers like Joe Louis.

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        • TheEvilSaint
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          #5
          Originally posted by Smashing
          Do you think that there will be a need for a proffesional Super Heavy Weight Division.
          Intersting article below.

          http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/5305466?GT1=7840
          no, no, and again no.

          we have too many divisions as it is. we dont need another.

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          • Eyeh8you
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            #6
            Then the heavy weight division would be like the cruiser..piss on this ****ty thread and Article

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            • Konstantin
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              #7
              Super Heavyweight?? Not at all, not enough people...

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              • mokele
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                #8
                reasonable idea

                The notion of a super heavyweight division is reasonable to me. The only question in my mind is at what weight to start. Should it be 240 lbs.? How about 250? 260? I don't know. Most people resist it for a few reasons:

                (1) There's no historical precedent.
                (2) Most giant guys are lousy and inferior to much smaller heavyweights. There aren't enough good big men to keep people interested.
                (3) There are too many weight divisions already.

                Argument #3 is not convincing for me. There never used to be junior middleweight or cruiserweight divisions but people are not clamoring for their removal. Argument #1 doesn't cut the mustard for me either. Most professional sports have been modernized in many different ways over the years. That means that the main argument is #2, which is a difficult one to deal with.

                Throughout most of the history of the heavyweight division there have never been any super heavyweights good enough to beat the better normal-sized ones. I researched this issue, and from the years 1920 through the 1950s I only found a few that were even world class:

                Abe Simon
                Buddy Baer
                Primo Carnera
                Jess Willard
                George Godfrey
                Jose Santa

                However, today there are many more. Using 250 lbs. (at some point during their career) as the standard the following can be said:

                Near the end of his career, Lennox Lewis was a bona fide super heavyweight at 250+ lbs. Vitaly Klitschko always weighed over 240 lbs., and often weighed close to 250. Jameel McCline is definitely a super heavyweight, along with Tye Fields, Danny Williams (although if he were in really good shape he would weigh less than 240), Valuev, Timo Hoffman, Matt Skelton, Ray Austin, Lawrence Clay-Bey and others.

                Hence there seem to be enough guys to make a serious division out of men who weigh in excess of 250 lbs. The guys that I listed are only the better ones. You can be sure that there are hundreds of big guys like that who occasionally box professionally but who aren't world class.

                If there was a super heavyweight division, smaller men should be allowed to participate if they wanted to. Guys like Rahman, Maskaev, Brock and others are good-sized guys who usually weigh over 230 lbs. but rarely over 240. They could challenge guys like Valuev, Tye Fields, etc. easily, and often win.

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                • mECHsLAVE
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                  #9
                  Nope. There's not going to be one, and there should not be one.

                  If you're too close to 200 to feel comfortable, then you have a choice.

                  1) Move down to cruiser or lhw.

                  2) Stay at hw and become elusive and rely on speed and stamina to win, rather than raw power, the smaller fighters clearly having an advantage in speed, mobility and stamina over the larger ones.

                  Trying to seperate them into two categories would be a total nightmare. You'd have super HW's trying to dehydrate down to HW, which can become very unhealthy for big men carrying a lot of muscle and weight. You'd be changing history and tradition of boxing and altering the most prestigious title in the sport, and splitting it in two. An utter and complete nightmare that nobody in boxing is going to go through.

                  I know this pops up a couple times a year, like clockwork, usually when a smaller fighter loses to a larger one. So yes, right on cue, but it's not happening, it shouldn't happen, so let's forget it and move on. End of discussion.

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