There is no Heavyweight "Champion". We start from square one.

**TyrantT316** · 04-23-2006, 10:41 AM

btw, how many years can we go saying "Rahman will knock everybody out with his right hand"

that right hand has been in detention since South Africa...

**DiegoFuego** · 04-23-2006, 10:48 AM

most reasonable people have been saying this ever since the Ring named Vitali champion. it will be nice to have even Klitschko nuthuggers admit there is no champion now that Rahman has replaced Vitali. ****in hypocrites.

**Bozo_no no** · 04-23-2006, 11:39 AM

The division is a mess right now, and I don't think we'll see unification for some time.

There wasn't/isn't/won't be a "Champion" for some time to come.

**MetalVomit** · 04-23-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by DiegoFuego

most reasonable people have been saying this ever since the Ring named Vitali champion. it will be nice to have even Klitschko nuthuggers admit there is no champion now that Rahman has replaced Vitali. ****in hypocrites.

Again, Vitali WON his title, Rahman was given his.

**Hitman932** · 04-23-2006, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by DiegoFuego

most reasonable people have been saying this ever since the Ring named Vitali champion. it will be nice to have even Klitschko nuthuggers admit there is no champion now that Rahman has replaced Vitali. ****in hypocrites.

if rahman, valuev and lyakovich were all presented the opportunity to fight wlad in august they would all find a way not to take the fight. its called fear. wlad is the champion right now solely because the other guys dont want anything to do with him.

the division is a mess, very true

but somebody is always the best

**TheEvilSaint** · 04-23-2006, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by TyrantT316

No one beat Lewis for the linear title. That is over and done with. We start from square one.

"What does that mean Tyrant?"

That means that the HW "belt holders" will actually have to face each other. I am tired of all of this "defend vs some unknown top 10, 15, 20 fighter and lose the title making things even more messed up"

Chris Byrd was the closest thing to being THEE champ until last night. Notice I said "closest" to, not THEE champ. Some rated Brewster as #1 because he was knocking people out. No one rated Ruiz or Valuev as #1. Some foolishly rated Rahman as #1 because he is still living off of one punch in South Africa and holds the name of a title that Lewis once held. Then some rated Chris Byrd as #1 as he has reigned the longest vs decent opposition for a man his size.

Liakovich
Wladimir
Valuev
Rahman (soon Maskaev)

Fight each other and we will have a champion.

Technically, Wlad is the best of them all. "However, that does not automatically make you undisputed."

Physically Valuev is the biggest of them all. " "

Rahman has a one-punch wonder win like 100 years ago over the last linear champ. " "

Laikovich beat the knockout machine impressively. " "

I really think it is pointless for people to sit and try to come up with reasons why so and so is THE undisputed champ.

Square one guys.

Fight each other and we will have a champion.

wow, any other old news you would like to tell us? something like "ali beats foreman!" or "13 is more than 12!"

thank you, captain obvious.

**juggernautburn** · 04-23-2006, 12:01 PM

directed to hitman

and you know this how, you can't be quick to say those fighters do not want to fight wlad when their schedules are already filled. sergio is a new champ, rahman has two fights ahead of him, and i don't know what the hell valuev is doing, but it definitely is not fear.

**Hitman932** · 04-23-2006, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by juggernautburn

directed to hitman

i don't know what the hell valuev is doing, but it definitely is not fear.

and you know this how??

valuev will beat owen beck easily and will set up a matchup with wlad for big money if he wants it. i just dont think he does, and i believe he will never fight wlad no matter what.

There is no Heavyweight "Champion". We start from square one.