Why is Mike Tyson not a boxing trainer??

[Luilun]

I don't think Tyson loves boxing he attends MMA more than boxing

[sugar ray lenrd]

Hmmm...actually it's been known, but I'don't see why, Boxers who excelled to the highest degree tend not to excel as trainers. Case in point Floyd Mayweather Sr, Manuel Stewart, Angelo Dundee, Roach, Robert Diaz, Eddie Futch, Abel Sanchez, Berenstian, Gil Clancy, Evangelista Cotto, Papa Trinidad, Papa Loma etc... all of these guys had success as trainers at the highest levels. But as fighters they did not.

Where as Muhammed Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roy Jones Jr, Roberto Duran, Michael Spinks, Oscar De La Hoya, Wilfredo Gomez, Lupe Pintor, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Tommy Hearns etc...aren't training any superstars...

There is only one fighter, was a reknown world champion that I personally knew & did excelled as a trainer who went on to work with many world champions...can you guys guess?

[Eddy Current]

One book I read about him described his charm in being the fact that "he is always himself."

[OCPancho]

Good trainers are mainly the ones with some sort of a strong background on any given subject, Tyson has an undeniable experience under his belt. He has also cleaned up quite a bit.

Maybe. Dundee never boxed.
Manny Steward was just an amateur boxer.
Cuyo Hernandez and Nacho Beristain were not former pro boxers .
Ray Arcel ? Janks Morton ? Lou Duva?

[OCPancho]

Hmmm...actually it's been known, but I'don't see why, Boxers who excelled to the highest degree tend not to excel as trainers. Case in point Floyd Mayweather Sr, Manuel Stewart, Angelo Dundee, Roach, Robert Diaz, Eddie Futch, Abel Sanchez, Berenstian, Gil Clancy, Evangelista Cotto, Papa Trinidad, Papa Loma etc... all of these guys had success as trainers at the highest levels. But as fighters they did not.

Where as Muhammed Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roy Jones Jr, Roberto Duran, Michael Spinks, Oscar De La Hoya, Wilfredo Gomez, Lupe Pintor, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Tommy Hearns etc...aren't training any superstars...

There is only one fighter, was a reknown world champion that I personally knew & did excelled as a trainer who went on to work with many world champions...can you guys guess?

Zaragoza ?

[McNulty]

I mean the man was a beast when he trained under "Cus" D'Amato not to take anything away from Atlas and Rooney but he sure is one of maybe only two men that can carry Cus training secrets and routines before it becomes extinct.

I can see him as a hell of a trainer...........what do you guys think?

Atlas trained under Cuz and Atlas is a shítty trainer. Either you have it or you don't. Cuz was very eloquent, had great timing, knowledge, communiction, calculated control, and wisdom. Thats a pretty serious package to have.

After I stopped fighting I started training Boxers. I have a very very high level of education from really good institutions of learning. Communication is one of my best weapons. With all of that said, being a trainer --- a good trainer, is a very difficult thing to do well. Finding ways to break through to fighters is on a case-by-case basis. Not the same words work for every guy and that takes great creativity.

Tyson isn't cut from that cloth.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Zaragoza ?

Zaragozar,
excellent trainer! but he's isn't the one...matter of fact I'll do a thread about this...

[sugar ray lenrd]

Atlas trained under Cuz and Atlas is a shítty trainer. Either you have it or you don't. Cuz was very eloquent, had great timing, knowledge, communiction, calculated control, and wisdom. Thats a pretty serious package to have.

After I stopped fighting I started training Boxers. I have a very very high level of education from really good institutions of learning. Communication is one of my best weapons. With all of that said, being a trainer --- a good trainer, is a very difficult thing to do well. Finding ways to break through to fighters is on a case-by-case basis. Not the same words work for every guy and that takes great creativity.

Tyson isn't cut from that cloth.

I personally don't think Teddy Atlas is a ****ty trainer. You see I remember Teddy Atlas back in the days when i was an amateur boxer in the early 80's. He would bring lots of guys from upstate & have them compete in the smokers in the South Bronx, Bed-Sty, East New York, Harlem & they did very well. I fought many of his fighters. And one thing for sure whenever I was competing against his fighters you knew you had to bring your A game. And yes he comes from the Gus D' Amato lineage.& usually that means something.

[TheBigLug]

Probably doesn't even love the sport enough.

it takes an incredible amount of dedication so someone else to be a trainer. if you're not in love with the game and putting your all into guiding another person, you shouldn't be training anybody.

it's definitely not for everybody.

[TBear]

Tyson might be a great trainer for certain styles, if he could keep it together. His life I mean. If he could do that, the teachings he received would be beneficial to certain styles that were similar to his own. But I don't think he has the resolve to commit to teaching and developing for the long haul. Too bad unfortunately.