Is it a new record if its not for the lineal/undisputed title like the previous 1

[therealpugilist]

I say no

fighters have unified and become lineal in recent years with all the alphabet belts going around.

Wlad and Mayweather have over a dozen lineal defenses in their careers

its not fair to Joe Louis who was the man who beat the man and defended 25 times


If Wilder defeated 26 title challengers without ever winning the lineal title or defeating the other titleholders, should it be considered as he broke Louis' record


If GGG kayos wade.....someone said he breaks wilfred Gomez title fight ko record of 20...I say no because Gomez was the lineal champion the entire reign and GGG has not won the lineal title yet and Canelo is the real champion

[SilverMiles]

So I guess you want to change the history and record books.

Mike Tyson no longer the youngest heavyweight champion since it wasn't the "lineal title" he won.

You can longer boast about Floyd beating 25 championship since majority of them weren't lineal champions.

None of Roy Jones defenses count and no record he might have set counts neither.

I guess PBC was blowing smoke out their ass when Huck fought Gloweski saying he needed one last win to break the cruiser weight record of title defenses, none of which where lineal.

I can go on and on.

April 23rd a record is on the line and it might be broken.

[Larry the boss]

Exactly..people praise mediocre accomplishments and slam greatness

[Robbie Barrett]

They are also counting the WBA regular as defences while there was a WBA super champ. How the **** does that work, one org can have two world champions? GTFOH.

[-PBP-]

I don't know. When Charles Martin and Jessie Vargas hold world titles, and Leo Santa Cruz is a 3 division champion, I can't take these titles serious.

[Larry the boss]

They are also counting the WBA regular as defences while there was a WBA super champ. How the **** does that work, one org can have two world champions? GTFOH.

That is down right disgusting

[Larry the boss]

So I guess you want to change the history and record books.

Mike Tyson no longer the youngest heavyweight champion since it wasn't the "lineal title" he won.

You can longer boast about Floyd beating 25 championship since majority of them weren't lineal champions.

None of Roy Jones defenses count and no record he might have set counts neither.

I guess PBC was blowing smoke out their ass when Huck fought Gloweski saying he needed one last win to break the cruiser weight record of title defenses, none of which where lineal.

I can go on and on.

April 23rd a record is on the line and it might be broken.

what record?...........

[therealpugilist]

So I guess you want to change the history and record books.

Mike Tyson no longer the youngest heavyweight champion since it wasn't the "lineal title" he won.

You can longer boast about Floyd beating 25 championship since majority of them weren't lineal champions.

None of Roy Jones defenses count and no record he might have set counts neither.

I guess PBC was blowing smoke out their ass when Huck fought Gloweski saying he needed one last win to break the cruiser weight record of title defenses, none of which where lineal.

I can go on and on.

April 23rd a record is on the line and it might be broken.

Floyd patterson is the youngest fighter to win the lineal world title.....Tyson was the youngest to win an alphabet belt....im not rewriting history...i am clarifying the difference.

Tyson was the youngest to win the wbc title.


Anyone who actually follows the history of the sport clarifies the difference

Mayweather still defeated 12 fighters who were lineal/undisputed champions in their career. and has won 4 lineal titles with a record of 21-0 in lineal title fights...... Who has done that in recent years?

You'd have to go back Ray Robinsons era, or Jimmy Mclarnin era in the 30s to see that and he only 49 fights



face it....these alphabet records are used to inflate accomplishments

[therealpugilist]

I don't know. When Charles Martin and Jessie Vargas hold world titles, and Leo Santa Cruz is a 3 division champion, I can't take these titles serious.

leo santa cruz arguably has the worse resume of a 3 division title....he is the wrong type of all time great lol

[therealpugilist]

So I guess you want to change the history and record books.

Mike Tyson no longer the youngest heavyweight champion since it wasn't the "lineal title" he won.

You can longer boast about Floyd beating 25 championship since majority of them weren't lineal champions.

None of Roy Jones defenses count and no record he might have set counts neither.

I guess PBC was blowing smoke out their ass when Huck fought Gloweski saying he needed one last win to break the cruiser weight record of title defenses, none of which where lineal.

I can go on and on.

April 23rd a record is on the line and it might be broken.

your reign is only as good as your opposition,,,Hucks was pretty good but he never faced the other title holders


Jones didnt fight Michalcewski but look at it from this perspective. there was a point where he was ring magazine champion and he held wins over 8/10 of the top ten contenders.....with or without the belts he was beating the best in his division, he just doesnt hold a record because Michaelcewski was considered lineal. I am the biggest Roy Jones fan you'll ever meet but Im not gonna be a hypocrite just because I like him and he is my ALL TIME FAV...ANYone whose been on this site knows Jones is my fav