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  • Cutthroat
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    #61
    Gonzalez barely sc****d by a damaged Pascal. Some beast.. But I can understand how you think he, amongst the others on that list, have significant KO power, since you picked Hopkins by KO.
    Not really, Pascal took a massive beating because Gonzalez walked through all his punches. And I never picked Hopkins by KO lmao, if I did I was trolling, I saw how unimpressive he looked against Murat, the guy people were making fun of Ward for wanting to fight lol.

    Not to mention styles make fights, Kovalev isn't nearly as evasive as Pascal.

    It remains to be seen whether those fighters can even be as durable as the Fonfara types. Maybe they'll just turn out to be Sillakhs, but Barrera has more in common with Chilemba, decent all around, but average in every category and certainly not a big puncher. The weeding out process has already begun and Barrera is about to get schooled.

    In other words, another pointless attempt to downgrade Kovalev. But credit where it's due, Hopkins by KO has to be one of the worst picks I've ever seen.
    What has Fonfara ever done to prove he was durable, get his ass kicked by Stevenson? He was getting his head snapped back by Chavez Jr lmao, I'm pretty sure Gonzales would KO him.

    Chilemba has a 34% KO ratio, Barrera 70% and he's the ONLY person to ever legitimately KO Murat and show he was on a whole different level as opposed to Hopkins/Cleverly both struggling with Murat. Not to mention his huge wealth of amateur experience.

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    • Foreign Soil
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      #62
      Originally posted by Cutthroat
      Not really, Pascal took a massive beating because Gonzalez walked through all his punches. And I never picked Hopkins by KO lmao, if I did I was trolling, I saw how unimpressive he looked against Murat, the guy people were making fun of Ward for wanting to fight lol.

      Not to mention styles make fights, Kovalev isn't nearly as evasive as Pascal.



      What has Fonfara ever done to prove he was durable, get his ass kicked by Stevenson? He was getting his head snapped back by Chavez Jr lmao, I'm pretty sure Gonzales would KO him.

      Chilemba has a 34% KO ratio, Barrera 70% and he's the ONLY person to ever legitimately KO Murat and show he was on a whole different level as opposed to Hopkins/Cleverly both struggling with Murat. Not to mention his huge wealth of amateur experience.

      Gonzalez didn't dominate that fight. He should've won, but it was a lot closer than people make it out to be. And that was a damaged Pascal coming off the Kovalev beatdown. The Shabranskyy fight showed Gonzalez' true quality. Kovalev's defense is better than Pascal's too.

      Fonfara took a lot of punishment early on against Stevenson, who hits harder than anybody on your list other than Beterbiev. It's clear he's pretty durable, though an average fighter at best.

      Barrera has more power than Chilemba, surely, but I wouldn't put him in a power puncher's category by any stretch. He stopped a fat Murat who is way past form from when he fought Cleverly, and even from when he fought Hopkins, whom Bernard mostly toyed with anyway. Hopkins struggled with Murat? I Think you enjoy making up things to fuel your troll brand. I don't see how you can be so wrong about so many things otherwise.

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      • Cutthroat
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        #63
        Gonzalez didn't dominate that fight. He should've won, but it was a lot closer than people make it out to be. And that was a damaged Pascal coming off the Kovalev beatdown. The Shabranskyy fight showed Gonzalez' true quality. Kovalev's defense is better than Pascal's too.
        It shouldn't have even been close, that's the point I'm making, there are a lot more guys better than Gonzalez who is a pretty 1 dimensional brawler, Shabranskyy proved that by winning a clear decision (wasn't as close as the MD indicates).

        Pascal looked the same in the 1st Kovalev fight as he did in the 2nd, the ref saved him the 1st time from getting KO'd the 1st time. And Kovalev doesn't have a better defense than Pascal, his power is his defense, nor has he ever shown he is as durable as Pascal. Again, he hasn't fought anybody close to the styles/physicality of the guys I listed.

        Fonfara took a lot of punishment early on against Stevenson, who hits harder than anybody on your list other than Beterbiev. It's clear he's pretty durable, though an average fighter at best.
        Stevenson is a 1 trick pony, he has his left hand and that's it. I fully expected him to obliterate Bika and he didn't, a guy that was rocked by WARD's left hook. Stevenson has NO body attack either, it's the same left to the head over and over again. Not to mention his glass chin forces him to step off the gas.

        Barrera has more power than Chilemba, surely, but I wouldn't put him in a power puncher's category by any stretch. He stopped a fat Murat who is way past form from when he fought Cleverly, and even from when he fought Hopkins, whom Bernard mostly toyed with anyway. Hopkins struggled with Murat? I Think you enjoy making up things to fuel your troll brand. I don't see how you can be so wrong about so many things otherwise.

        Barrera hits very hard and throws in combos, he's also great at working the body, all the guys I listed have some vicious body punches, much better than Pascal-Hopkins. We know for a fact Kovalev has been dropped by a body shot from GGG, and if you saw him fight Pascal-Hopkins you'd see he respected their body shots. Just look at his lean, lanky body, dude doesn't like to get hit there.


        Hopkins did not toy with Murat lol, it was an all out brawl with Hopkins eating a ton of leather but ultimately landing the cleaner shots. Showtime's crew all had it even through 6 rounds, you even had Hopkins himself in the 12th saying "I need a knockout" . Hopkins pulled off a close UD against a guy Barrera completely outclassed, and Murat was in the same shape he was for B-Hop, twice weighing in at 174.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #64
          Nadjib was a silly opponent but Pascal is a former, 2 time LHW champ and still a legit top 10 fighter. Hopkins was a unified champ at the time.

          That isn't a soft resume to me. Yes Kovs team should have taken the Stevenson fight but other than that, who is better than Pascal and Hopkins at 175?

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          • Lester Tutor
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            #65
            I like Kovalev, but when you REALLY think about it, Kova's only holding the IBF and WBA because of the Alien. Most people would agree that Bhop schooled Pascal considering his age.

            We still need a Stevenson fight. But I will settle for Ward beating Kovalev in the future for whimping out on Adonis.

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            • Foreign Soil
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              #66
              Originally posted by Cutthroat
              It shouldn't have even been close, that's the point I'm making, there are a lot more guys better than Gonzalez who is a pretty 1 dimensional brawler, Shabranskyy proved that by winning a clear decision (wasn't as close as the MD indicates).

              Pascal looked the same in the 1st Kovalev fight as he did in the 2nd, the ref saved him the 1st time from getting KO'd the 1st time. And Kovalev doesn't have a better defense than Pascal, his power is his defense, nor has he ever shown he is as durable as Pascal. Again, he hasn't fought anybody close to the styles/physicality of the guys I listed.



              Stevenson is a 1 trick pony, he has his left hand and that's it. I fully expected him to obliterate Bika and he didn't, a guy that was rocked by WARD's left hook. Stevenson has NO body attack either, it's the same left to the head over and over again. Not to mention his glass chin forces him to step off the gas.




              Barrera hits very hard and throws in combos, he's also great at working the body, all the guys I listed have some vicious body punches, much better than Pascal-Hopkins. We know for a fact Kovalev has been dropped by a body shot from GGG, and if you saw him fight Pascal-Hopkins you'd see he respected their body shots. Just look at his lean, lanky body, dude doesn't like to get hit there.


              Hopkins did not toy with Murat lol, it was an all out brawl with Hopkins eating a ton of leather but ultimately landing the cleaner shots. Showtime's crew all had it even through 6 rounds, you even had Hopkins himself in the 12th saying "I need a knockout" . Hopkins pulled off a close UD against a guy Barrera completely outclassed, and Murat was in the same shape he was for B-Hop, twice weighing in at 174.

              Shabranskyy is better than Gonzalez, but he's still raw and flawed. Did you miss his recent fight where he was pummeled for the entire 1st round? Good comeback to win, but he's still raw. His defense is a weakness.

              Pascal clearly was diminished after Kovalev 1.

              Pascal doesn't have Kovalev's defense.

              Stevenson maybe a one-trick pony, but that doesn't in any way diminish Fonfara's toughness for staying in. I don't think Fonfara would last past 6-8 vs Kovalev, but that speaks for Adonis' lack of willingness to finish opponents.

              The Murat vs Barrera was clearly the poorest version of Murat that there's ever been. Barrera is a slightly above average puncher, nothing more.

              Hopkins chose to stand and trade vs Murat because he knew he could get away with it. He basically fought down to Murat's level and at the end, had Murat's back to the ropes, playing to the crowd. Another calculated victory for Bernard.

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