Antoine Douglas demise: bad match making or wasn't ready?

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  • sicko
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    #11
    Just did not look prepared to deal with a Pressure fighter and a guy who had nothing to lose and fought like it

    Douglas and Sadam Ali and even going back to Amir Imam defeat, this Back Foot Fighting backing themselves against the Ropes is getting ***ING Ridiculous and All 3 Paid the price for fighting like that. Sorry but when you're a young up and coming fighter...LET YOUR ***ING HANDS GO! That is the time in your career that yes you should be trying to impressive you should be trying things to see what what and what doesn't. Somebody posted in another thread about certain fighters trying to copy Mayweather, yes this is true but the mistake they're making is copying the Older Mayweather the one with the Brittle Hands and not the one in his Prime before the Brittle Hands

    Guys are backing straight up, they don't side step or circle, don't know how to turn their opponent to keep it in the middle of the ring, they don't know how to even clinch to buy themselves time to try and recover. They all got stopped the same way if you look at it, against the Ropes with them just covering up and the Refs having to step in.

    All can bounce back but and will but who comes back strong and better from those defeats will be interesting!
    Last edited by sicko; 03-07-2016, 07:08 PM.

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    • Dean_Razorback
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      #12
      does anybody have the full fight?? i missed it

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      • ironmike2012
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        #13
        Well to be fair, he was supposed to face Sam Soliman, which he would have won, but even if he lost, he would have not taken damage.
        It was probably hard to find a last second replacement, whoever brought him in should get fired, that was not a good move, they should have moved to a different card.
        Worse part was the corner, he showed the heart of a champion, he was fighting back with no power and taking way too many blows. Should have been stopped rounds earlier, like Roach did with Pascal, Pascal was a title fight and his last payday, Douglas has a career ahead, but that beating might be huge. He needs to rest, corner didn't look out for him.
        No shame in losing to that fighter, he was ready to fight, a lot of young fighters would have lost the same way.

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        • Gods We Faked
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          #14
          Whatever it was he messed up my Shostreak.

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #15
            It's a combination of matchmaking and training.

            Young fighters should be exposed to the various different styles at the 4 round level. Put 'em in against movers/pressure fighters/boxer-punchers/southpaws of different heights. If they have any glaring deficiencies against a particular style then a good trainer should show them how to fix those.

            Repeat the process again at the 6 round level. See how the fighter is coming along plus what other areas might need improving....then repeat the whole thing at the 8 round level and so on.

            By the time a fighter is taking on a top 10 opponent he should have a well-rounded understanding of how to approach any fighting style. He should be confident that he has built up the stamina to last all the rounds. And he should have smoothed out any obvious rough edges in his fundamentals.

            Douglas was dropping his right hand a lot on Saturday and that should have been caught a long time ago in my opinion.
            Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 03-07-2016, 07:06 PM.

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            • SilverMiles
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              #16
              As far as I know his handlers didn't pick the fight for him. They where trying to maneuver him in a title shot against Saunders. Soliman was the original opponent and would have been a less tough fight. I won't say Soliman would be easier because his a tricky fellow but he wasn't going to do what Khurtzirde did.

              Now his team could have pulled him from the fight after Soliman pulled out but looking at Khurtsidze, you'll think he'll be a beatable opponent. But it was boy vs man. Antoine simply didn't have the man strength to cope nor the boxing IQ to implement a different game plan on the fly.

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              • deanrw
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                #17
                I gotta say though, it was the first time I have seen Khurtsidzi fight. He is definitely a fun fighter. The Old fella is relentless.

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                • Hougigo
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                  #18
                  Khurtzide is always a handful. Most likely wasn't ready for that kind of pressure from the little guy

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                  • Hougigo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    I gotta say though, it was the first time I have seen Khurtsidzi fight. He is definitely a fun fighter. The Old fella is relentless.
                    Fought N'Dam, gave him a lot of trouble

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      He opponent is so damn short, that Douglas must have found it very hard to not only prepare for, but also hit someone that low. It also presented punches coming at him from low. That stuff can throw a fighter off.
                      He is the height of Roman Gonzalez, Estrada and other flyweights, bantams, sbw's and lower weight fighters.

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