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when ward turned down a career high payday against bute these people defended ward. they said he didn't have to fight the #1 guy in his division who happened to be very popular. why? he hadn't earned it. hmmm ok.
then these same ward defenders say ggg has to fight unranked lara who is an unpopular(not unknown, people know him but just don't like him) fighter who is not even in his division. where was the he hadn't earned it crowd? not even a single fight in the division but gone.
their second argument is well lara is better than willie monroe and wade so he should have fought him. first of all that is entirely subjective since they aren't even in the same division, but secondly yes there are people better than those guys, just like there are a ton of people better than sullivan barrera, paul smith, and edwin rodriguez but they ignore the context of how these fights actually got made. did ggg go straight to ward and monroe? no he tried to fight other top fighters like canelo and saunders. did ward try to fight other top fighters first....nope!
so if ggg is ducking lara which is your claim then literally almost every fight in boxing history has been a duck according to your own high standards which you only strangely follow when talking about ggg.Last edited by daggum; 03-09-2016, 01:54 AM.
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Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View PostThe time to say this was before GGG signed to fight Dominic Wade since the next fight after that should, in theory, be Canelo.
Now in the likely event that Canelo/GGG negotiations fall through or allow for another in between fight, then I hope they follow through on GGG/BJS.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postggg is ducking saunders to fight wade. he is pathetic
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Damn, Max Bursak hasn't fought at MW since June 2014, when he was outboxed by Martin Murray and just before that outboxed by Jarrod Fletcher. He's since had all his fights at 168lb and even lost to Zac Dunne.
How the hell did the WBO sanction him at 160lb?
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostNow change Lara name with GGG and GGG name with Canelo and for fun Wades with Khan. Funny isnt it.
Ok im done.
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Originally posted by turnedup View PostCanelo will be vacating and going after the vacant WBC belt at 154 after he disposes Khan, so enjoy whoever is next on GGG's path or simply avoid the threads..that makes three top ten fighters that turn from a showdown from the guy...Wade at least gets credit for having the balls to get into the ring with him.
3 fighters huh. Wow!! This time i remember the offer to Saunders and then he offered.....oh yeah thats it. So he said ok to Johnson and then Johnson got injured and he went after.....oh yeah no one. He waited and they said Wade so he accepted it. WOOOOOOO!! Hell Yeah!!
Did he make an offer to Canelo? No he accepted the step aside. hmmmm
Imagine if Canelo fights Saunders in a unification fight which should be acceptable cause its a unification right. GGG will be left with Johnson and his fans will scream "its unfinished business" "mandatory" or "everyones afraid" though he didnt try to get anyone else
And i will enjoy his next fight and the one after that. Hope you can.
Chase that dream or better keep waiting for it. Maybe by the times hes 35/36 he can unify the weakest division in boxing.
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostSo we back to the Canelo 154 thing huh.
3 fighters huh. Wow!! This time i remember the offer to Saunders and then he offered.....oh yeah thats it. So he said ok to Johnson and then Johnson got injured and he went after.....oh yeah no one. He waited and they said Wade so he accepted it. WOOOOOOO!! Hell Yeah!!
Did he make an offer to Canelo? No he accepted the step aside. hmmmm
Imagine if Canelo fights Saunders in a unification fight which should be acceptable cause its a unification right. GGG will be left with Johnson and his fans will scream "its unfinished business" "mandatory" or "everyones afraid" though he didnt try to get anyone else
And i will enjoy his next fight and the one after that. Hope you can.
Chase that dream or better keep waiting for it. Maybe by the times hes 35/36 he can unify the weakest division in boxing.
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Originally posted by turnedup View PostSaunders said no to the biggest payday of his career, since he couldn't fight for another belt he had to take on Johnson who was his mandatory, he got injured the commission picked a replacement. Two out of those three names are forced upon opponents. Those are facts Fetta, irrefutable facts. Champions fight their mandatories unless they can negotiate. You have such a hard on for the guy, it's almost like you guys need this to enjoy boxing. Bullshhh after bullshhh argument because he doesn't fight WHO YOU want him to fight. You need that so bad become a fighter son, seriously. As much time as ya'll spend hating on mofo's you'd think you'd be a testicle hair away from breaking through in the sport. Seriously...what's the issue? It has to be bigger than his opponents list, so really what is it? Soon as i said and pointed out Lara's lack of names you dropped that fast as fk...so standing on one leg like you are right now...what is the core reason you spent like 25% of your time on boxing scene hating this one boxer? You missing the days of the Floyd vs Manny drama? That shhhh got you hooked like a lonely bored housewife does with soaps? Where was all this complaining when guys like Sergio Martinez couldn't get a decent opponent to step in the ring? Rigo fights the same level of opposition and has other champions not wanting to fight him but he gets a ton of love, this guy in the same boat but only with a network and white and he gets hated on..c'mon.
Champions fight their mandatories unless they can negotiate.
Belts are crap in todays boxing landscape. Vargas just got a belt and is a "Champion" cause they elevated Bradley. Yeah belts are worthless for the big names.
You need that so bad become a fighter son, seriously.
Tried it and a young age. Loved the sport but wasnt for me. Had another passion and i excelled at it.
Seriously...what's the issue?
My patience is running thin with this MW ATG, P4P top 3, "I think he can take Hagler", 34 year old fighter.
Soon as i said and pointed out Lara's lack of names you dropped that fast as fk
No i didnt. Lara was the debate you wanted. I listed many other fighters but Lara is the one you boys are obsessed and i agree its the natural choice but like i mentioned you choose that name.
what is the core reason you spent like 25% of your time on boxing scene hating this one boxer?
I wasnt hating and spent like 25% of that moment on this boxer cause we were debating his next fight. Thats why we both spent that amount of time. Me on one side and you on the other.
You missing the days of the Floyd vs Manny drama?
Hell NO!!!
Where was all this complaining when guys like Sergio Martinez couldn't get a decent opponent to step in the ring?
Oh i ripped Chavez and TR for fight not happening.
But Martinez fought Williams twice, Pavlik, Chavez, Cotto, and in the middle had that WBO guy Dzyn, Macklin after Sturm, Barker, which i thought would be a god fight and it was and Murray. Not an ATG list but some good names in there.
Rigo fights the same level of opposition and has other champions not wanting to fight him Rigo has other issues evident by him not fighting this coming weekend. But he is begging for a fight......any fight really.
but only with a network and white and he gets hated on..c'mon.
Never cared about networks. I watch fights. Dont care if hes white, black, blue or from Mars. What the hell does that have to do what it?
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostWhoa!!! Got them panties all in a twist. You got it ALL wrong.
Champions fight their mandatories unless they can negotiate.
Belts are crap in todays boxing landscape. Vargas just got a belt and is a "Champion" cause they elevated Bradley. Yeah belts are worthless for the big names.
You need that so bad become a fighter son, seriously.
Tried it and a young age. Loved the sport but wasnt for me. Had another passion and i excelled at it.
Seriously...what's the issue?
My patience is running thin with this MW ATG, P4P top 3, "I think he can take Hagler", 34 year old fighter.
Soon as i said and pointed out Lara's lack of names you dropped that fast as fk
No i didnt. Lara was the debate you wanted. I listed many other fighters but Lara is the one you boys are obsessed and i agree its the natural choice but like i mentioned you choose that name.
what is the core reason you spent like 25% of your time on boxing scene hating this one boxer?
I wasnt hating and spent like 25% of that moment on this boxer cause we were debating his next fight. Thats why we both spent that amount of time. Me on one side and you on the other.
You missing the days of the Floyd vs Manny drama?
Hell NO!!!
Where was all this complaining when guys like Sergio Martinez couldn't get a decent opponent to step in the ring?
Oh i ripped Chavez and TR for fight not happening.
But Martinez fought Williams twice, Pavlik, Chavez, Cotto, and in the middle had that WBO guy Dzyn, Macklin after Sturm, Barker, which i thought would be a god fight and it was and Murray. Not an ATG list but some good names in there.
Rigo fights the same level of opposition and has other champions not wanting to fight him Rigo has other issues evident by him not fighting this coming weekend. But he is begging for a fight......any fight really.
but only with a network and white and he gets hated on..c'mon.
Never cared about networks. I watch fights. Dont care if hes white, black, blue or from Mars. What the hell does that have to do what it?
Those were all legitimate questions to get all of my assuming out of the way because honestly I fail to comprehend the level of disdain, you say you've are growing tired of a 33/34 year old...imagine how he feels? He sat in Europe for 6 years going anywhere they'd pay him to fight, same as Kovalev. People act like these guys don't want to fight just about anyone. These ARE the guys that will fight anyone if the conditions are right. People seem to forget he wanted that Ward fight, said he wanted it, gave K2 and HBO the greenlight to make it happen. I fks with Golovkin for that reason, not because he's a K.O. machine, not because people just don't get the intangibles in his fight style, or the fact that his current fight style is pretty much just the surface of the guy's true abilities. But because this dude is the definition of grabbing your sack and saying let's do this. Yeah he's fought nobody of noteworthy name according to the public but what has happened in all but one situation where he's asked/demanded the fight? They all come up with some bullshhh excuse they actually go and say publicly and then recant. I get why some people might not like his opponent lineup but at some point just like Rigo you gotta start pointing the finger at the opponents who keep running away.
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