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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Originally posted by AddiX
    A lot of this is on the fans though.

    We hold loses against fighters way to harshly.


    Nate Diaz just headlined a ppv fight on 2 weeks notice. .

    His last 10 fights he was 5-5.

    UFC fans were fine with it, boxing fans this never would of passed.
    Originally posted by FrankieClutch
    I agree. The second someone gets a loss, everything they've accomplished becomes a question. Were they even good in the first place? OH, they were fighting a top level fighter? Doesn't matter, he was a bum all along
    I don't get how this is fans fault.

    Whats changed in boxing is highly relevant to how fans expectations have changed. Nowadays in boxing guys are deemed to have value by promoters well before they have proven to have value by fans. The promoter aims to get this fighter deemed valuable the right fights to move him along to a power position in the sport. There is no more trial by fire in boxing. Its more like a manager moving an actor to fame thru the right trajectory of films than a sport with how things work today.

    With that being how most of the major promoters work most of the time that means that there are many guys who are 25-0 who've proven little in the world of boxing & when they do lose it does deserve to be judged more harshly. Problems arise in that some guys have been tried via fire & there 20-5 record has shown more skill in boxing than that 25-0 guy's record, but its hard to keep up with all that for the average boxing fan so that 20-5 guy doesn't get the appreciation he deserves. Thus the problem isn't anything to do with fans, its with the product & business model of promoters that have changed how boxing fans look at the sport.

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    • AddiX
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      #12
      Yep, fans don't care about records or loses....


      Thats why Floyd constantly brings up his record and so do his fans.

      Give me a break...

      In this sport you lose to anyone and your stock plummits in fans eyes.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #13
        Originally posted by -PBP-
        Thurman/Porter was supposed to be this weekend. Left a big hole in the schedule.
        Not just Thurman-Porter, but that entire night of fights:

        -Thurman-Porter
        -Mares-Montiel
        -GRJ title defense
        -Rodriguez-WilliamsJr

        and the undercard for the extended show (likely with solid NE prospect fights).

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          #14
          Originally posted by FrankieClutch
          I agree. The second someone gets a loss, everything they've accomplished becomes a question. Were they even good in the first place? OH, they were fighting a top level fighter? Doesn't matter, he was a bum all along
          Not necessarily, as long as the fighter was matched solid throughout the run. Just look at Antoine "Action" Douglas; he's been thrown in with solid competition for at least his last 6 fights and, after being expected to fight the always game Sam Soliman, instead fought Khurtsidze, a guy who was 14-1 in his seemingly meaningful fights (only loss being to the always game Hassan N'Dam).

          The boxing public (hardcore fans anyway) saw that Douglas was put in tough again, and watched a rugged and experienced guy simply wear out a rising prospect (who bit off a touch more than he could chew). Is Douglas washed at this point? No; letting him take a bit of a break, throw him in for another two solid fights, and he's back on the cusp of breaking through, especially if Showtime sticks with him.

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