Brook vs Vargas

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  • _original_
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    #11
    We really don't know how good Brook actually is based off one good fight so it might be competitive as Vargas always brings it. Both have a belt, nice unification bout, make it happen.

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      #12
      Originally posted by John Locke
      Who has he got at 147 tho? Especially if Pac beats Bradley then retires...
      Crawford VS Vargas would make sense for Arum to get Crawford a strap at 147 and make a possible fight against the Pac/Bradley winner bigger.

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        #13
        I doubt it. Arum will put Vargas in with Crawford, Bradley, Provodnikov, Benavidez, and Pacquiao before considering Brook.

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        • HanzGruber
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          #14
          No Vargas Bradley 2 is all but guaranteed. Right up arums alley

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          • John Locke
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            #15
            Originally posted by _original_
            Crawford VS Vargas would make sense for Arum to get Crawford a strap at 147 and make a possible fight against the Pac/Bradley winner bigger.
            Crawford hasn't even fought a top 15 guy at 140 yet, I doubt he jumps up to 147 unless it's for Pac, but Arum won't do that cos Pac would absolutely wreck Crawford

            If Benavidez can't make 140 anymore, I'd like Vargas vs Benavidez

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              #16
              Originally posted by John Locke
              Crawford hasn't even fought a top 15 guy at 140 yet, I doubt he jumps up to 147 unless it's for Pac, but Arum won't do that cos Pac would absolutely wreck Crawford

              If Benavidez can't make 140 anymore, I'd like Vargas vs Benavidez
              No he hasn't but Arum clearly wants a Pacquiao VS Crawford PPV, this could be his way to get Crawford a strap to sell the fight as Pac fighting a rising star with a 147 belt.

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                #17
                Bradley is overrated.

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                • John Locke
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _original_
                  No he hasn't but Arum clearky wants a Pacquiao VS Crawford PPV, this could be his way to get Crawford a strap to sell the fight as Pac fighting a rising star with a 147 belt.
                  Honestly I don't think Arum wants to make Pac vs Crawford, he's just marketing Crawford. Even this version of Pac would torch Crawford, that's very obvious. If it was a winnable fight for Crawford, I agree Arum would be all over it.

                  Crawford has lost lots of rounds against Gamboa, Dulorme and Hank. He really isn't that good.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by John Locke
                    Honestly I don't think Arum wants to make Pac vs Crawford, he's just marketing Crawford. Even this version of Pac would torch Crawford, that's very obvious. If it was a winnable fight for Crawford, I agree Arum would be all over it.

                    Crawford has lost lots of rounds against Gamboa, Dulorme and Hank. He really isn't that good.
                    Well, when is the last time Pac Man has torched anybody? I agree that Pac probably wins but I think Crawford could make it interesting, and a lot of people even feel he has a chance. Crawford lost early rounds against those guys then adjusted and proceeded to knock them the F out, you're underrating him badly here. I think Arum clearly wanted Pac VS Crawford this April but Pac and his team chose Bradley again.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _original_
                      Well, when is the last time Pac Man has torched anybody? I agree that Pac probably wins but I think Crawford could make it interesting, and a lot of people even feel he has a chance. Crawford lost early rounds against those guys then adjusted and proceeded to knock them the F out, you're underrating him badly here. I think Arum clearly wanted Pac VS Crawford this April but Pac and his team chose Bradley again.
                      This is gonna sound cliche but he's fought a lot of guys who are durable and hard to stop. Something tells me Crawford isn't very durable.

                      Losing early rounds against C/D level guys like Dulorme and Lundy is terrible. He shouldn't need time to adjust against such low level guys. Even Gamboa, I know he's very talented, but he's like half of Crawford's size and inactive.

                      I just don't see what the hype is about with Crawford. He's a good fighter at best, nothing more.

                      And I don't think Pac chose Bradley, Arum made it seem that way. A lot of the things said by these guys get lost in translation and taken out of context.

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