Could a 2004 De La Hoya @ 160 go 12 with Golovkin?

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  • monkeyboy
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    Hatton -> 140 pounder way smaller than him
    Jmm -> 135 pounder he brought to 144 and failed to make weight
    Mosley -> shot
    Ortiz -> nobody, C class fighter
    Cotto -> legitimate opponent. Fight was very close
    Guerrero -> C level fighter
    Canelo -> Canelo sucks if he can't have 10 pounds weight advantage. He was 10 pounds lighter than he usually is in that fight. Canelo is no A level fighter. He relies on being bigger, like Chavez jr used to.
    Maidana -> yes, but only with Pillow gloves and clinching all night
    Pacquiao -> close fight, I give the nod to Pac cuz he was the one fighting, not clinching.
    I agree with some of these. The notable (and good) exceptions are;

    Hatton - Yes stretched to higher weight class but unbeaten and a great fight whilst it lasted. Credit to Floyd.

    Cotto - Good fight.

    Maidana 2. - First was a surprise to Floyd and everybody.

    PBF's treatment of JMM was terrible. Would Floyd have beaten JMM on a level playing field? Probably. Seeing as he really stacked the deck I refuse to consider it a fair win.

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    • Chuckguy
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      #22
      Originally posted by larryx..
      Hatton
      Jmm
      Mosley
      Ortiz
      Cotto
      Guerrero
      Canelo
      Maidana-2 times
      Pacquiao


      NEVER CHALLENGED HIMSELF???WOW
      Maidana Guerrero really Larry come on.

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      • Chuckguy
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        #23
        Originally posted by b00g13man
        WTF? How is this ridiculous rant related to the topic?
        It is in response to his sig bro

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        • -Kev-
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          #24
          Oscar was not a MW, he was beaten by both Sturm and Hopkins in his only 2 fights there, he would have lost to GGG. But if GGG would have gone down to 154, DLH would have won.

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            #25
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Oscar was not a MW, he was beaten by both Sturm and Hopkins in his only 2 fights there, he would have lost to GGG. But if GGG would have gone down to 154, DLH would have won.
            Why would he have won at 154 Kev? Drained?

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            • -Kev-
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              #26
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              That's not a challenge. He didn't fight Klitschko so he never challenged himself
              Let's be real, Wladimir Klitschko would not have been a challenge. Floyd Mayweather should have captured and KO'ed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan, then maybeee, i'd give him credit for taking on a challenge post-DLH.

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                #27
                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                Why would he have won at 154 Kev? Drained?
                Because that's where DLH's maximum potential was, he was no better above that. DLH loses at 160 because he was bloated, undersized and ineffective. Any top 10 contender has a shot at DLH at 160. At 154 he was pretty good.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                  If that's the same Oscar that Sturm beat and got robbed against then Hopkins stopped then no, he wouldn't last with GGG at 160...

                  Oscar was a great fighter but not a 160 lb'er
                  Very good point.I never thought of it that way.

                  Oscar was pretty fat when he fought Sturm though. And Sturm clearly got robbed in that fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                    If that's the same Oscar that Sturm beat and got robbed against then Hopkins stopped then no, he wouldn't last with GGG at 160...

                    Oscar was a great fighter but not a 160 lb'er
                    Pretty much this.

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