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  • #11
    Originally posted by richardt View Post
    So were Negrete and Gramajo going against guys who they were not a solid favorite???? I'll answer that...they were 100% expected to win. I'm talking about equal matchups! And you are DEAD WRONG about these series!! These SERIES are for FANBOYS not FANS! FANBOYS only want to watch prospects bowl over HUGE underdogs AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!! 100% predictable outcomes, PERIOD! You could not possibly be more incorrect about PBC and ShowBox fighters being developed through Golden Boy because ShowBox has been on the air for over FIFTEEN years and the fighters were developed through a variety of promotional and management teams! And you are also wrong about something else! ShowBox has produced over 42 world champions and over 87 world contenders who fought for titles! So what about Jo Jo Diaz? No one wants to see years of blatant mismatches of his! They need to keep the damn MISMATCHES off of TV! Again, fighters are NOT developed by putting them in mismatches, they are developed by taking off their damn training wheels and hauling their a$$es out of the damn kiddle pool and fighting other EQUAL prospects to see who the real stars and contenders are! All GoldenCrap and TopStink does is build prima donna's who think they are special when then bowl over a guy who has barely won a fight in years!
    Doesn't matter undefeated is undefeated you can't have it both ways. You keep mentioning how PBC AND ShoBox are constantly putting on those same kind of fights yet the majority of undefeated fighters have flawed records constantly fighting guys who don't have wins, or have fought weak competition. I'd rather have the up and comers face former title holders or former contenders that's what Top Rank and Goldenboy are doing. Both companies have produced world champions, and hall of famers, and are still doing major business so obviously their doing something right. Both companies are signing top prospects so they must be doing something right.

    That's why when both guys companies see that their young prospects are ready for the contenders they get HBO fights or Tru TV fights to graduate to the next level. So again their are different ways to grow prospects. Some guys move faster than others but at least they are being developed the right way.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by LOCOMEX89 View Post
      Doesn't matter undefeated is undefeated you can't have it both ways. You keep mentioning how PBC AND ShoBox are constantly putting on those same kind of fights yet the majority of undefeated fighters have flawed records constantly fighting guys who don't have wins, or have fought weak competition. I'd rather have the up and comers face former title holders or former contenders that's what Top Rank and Goldenboy are doing. Both companies have produced world champions, and hall of famers, and are still doing major business so obviously their doing something right. Both companies are signing top prospects so they must be doing something right.

      That's why when both guys companies see that their young prospects are ready for the contenders they get HBO fights or Tru TV fights to graduate to the next level. So again their are different ways to grow prospects. Some guys move faster than others but at least they are being developed the right way.
      You still don't ***ing get it!!!!!!!! Every week for a year I have mentioned how GoldenCrap and TopStink have put COUNTLESS shows with COUNTLESS prospects fighting COUNTLESS hapless, hopeless opponents with NO chance of winning and EVERY week that is EXACTLY what has happened!! OPPONENTS who were ALL on losing streaks, some who lost 4 out of their last 5 and 8 out of their last 9 fights!! Dude, you are nothing but a biased FANBOY which is obvious by your defending TopStink and GoldenCrap cards like this!! That's why PBC and ShoBox SHT all over crap like this!! They take the training wheels off fighters in the FIRST televised fights! You DO NOT SEE ShoBox and PBC putting prospects in against guys who lost 5 out of their last 6 or 8 out of their last 9 fights, PERIOD!
      Over FIFTEEN YEARS of regular ShoBox cards puts COUNTLESS prospects against PROSPECTS and for years the regular GoldenCrap and TopStink Cards have been COUNTLESS prospects going against HAPLESS, HELPLESS, NO HOPERS!!
      Get a ***ing clue if you have to BEG, BORROW, or STEAL one!
      Last edited by richardt; 03-05-2016, 08:06 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by richardt View Post
        You still don't ***ing get it!!!!!!!! Every week for a year I have mentioned how GoldenCrap and TopStink have put COUNTLESS shows with COUNTLESS prospects fighting COUNTLESS hapless, hopeless opponents with NO chance of winning and EVERY week that is EXACTLY what has happened!! OPPONENTS who were ALL on losing streaks, some who lost 4 out of their last 5 and 8 out of their last 9 fights!! Dude, you are nothing but a biased FANBOY which is obvious by your defending TopStink and GoldenCrap cards like this!! That's why PBC and ShoBox SHT all over crap like this!! They take the training wheels off fighters in the FIRST televised fights! You DO NOT SEE ShoBox and PBC putting prospects in against guys who lost 5 out of their last 6 or 8 out of their last 9 fights, PERIOD!
        Over FIFTEEN YEARS of regular ShoBox cards puts COUNTLESS prospects against PROSPECTS and for years the regular GoldenCrap and TopStink Cards have been COUNTLESS prospects going against HAPLESS, HELPLESS, NO HOPERS!!
        Get a ***ing clue if you have to BEG, BORROW, or STEAL one!
        No you don't get it. It's about building your prospects and getting them to the level of being contenders. Records are often overrated. Period. Look at Robinson Castellanos vs Ronnie Rios. Based on the record you would have thought Rios was going to run through Castellanos. Then what happened Rios got knocked out. Now Castellanos is fighting for a world title shot tonight.

        Again records are often overrated. Get your PBC/ShoBox loving head out of of your ass. If anyone is being biased it's you calling Top Rank TopStink and Golden Boy GoldenCrap. Not every single PBC prospect faces opponents with perfect records ALL THE TIME I highly doubt that S__T!!!! Stop hating and stop sounding like a jack A$$

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        • #14
          Originally posted by LOCOMEX89 View Post
          No you don't get it. It's about building your prospects and getting them to the level of being contenders. Records are often overrated. Period. Look at Robinson Castellanos vs Ronnie Rios. Based on the record you would have thought Rios was going to run through Castellanos. Then what happened Rios got knocked out. Now Castellanos is fighting for a world title shot tonight.

          Again records are often overrated. Get your PBC/ShoBox loving head out of of your ass. If anyone is being biased it's you calling Top Rank TopStink and Golden Boy GoldenCrap. Not every single PBC prospect faces opponents with perfect records ALL THE TIME I highly doubt that S__T!!!! Stop hating and stop sounding like a jack A$$
          Yeah like I'm going to take your word over Teddy Atlas! You are FULL OF SHT!! You BUILD fighters and satisfy fans with EVEN or at least CLOSE to EVEN MATCHUPS, NOT MISMATCHES!! You go get a boner watching your darling prospects pound on guys who have lost 8 of their last 9 fights and I'll watch the REAL matches where undefeated prospects and fighters with only a loss or two fight each other in EVEN MATCHUPS! Go enjoy your darling prospects fight each others leftovers instead of themselves!! You are more clueless than a dead frog! Nothing but a fanboy!
          Last edited by richardt; 03-05-2016, 11:51 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by richardt View Post
            Yeah like I'm going to take your word over Teddy Atlas! You are FULL OF SHT!! You BUILD fighters and satisfy fans with EVEN or at least CLOSE to EVEN MATCHUPS, NOT MISMATCHES!! You go get a boner watching your darling prospects pound on guys who have lost 8 of their last 9 fights and I'll watch the REAL matches where undefeated prospects and fighters with only a loss or two fight each other in EVEN MATCHUPS! Go enjoy your darling prospects fight each others leftovers instead of themselves!! You are more clueless than a dead frog! Nothing but a fanboy!
            You must be on your knees watching the ShoBox card. Hopefully your breathing in and out watching "evenly " matched fights. Yet J-Roc is fighting a guy who has never fought out of his own country. Harrison fighting a guy who is a blown up welterweight. And Douglas fighting a very unknown fighter. Your pathetic and a PBC nut hugger. Till next time we will agree to disagree.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by LOCOMEX89 View Post
              You must be on your knees watching the ShoBox card. Hopefully your breathing in and out watching "evenly " matched fights. Yet J-Roc is fighting a guy who has never fought out of his own country. Harrison fighting a guy who is a blown up welterweight. And Douglas fighting a very unknown fighter. Your pathetic and a PBC nut hugger. Till next time we will agree to disagree.
              If you think some HAPLESS, HELPLESS setup with a prospect going against a guy who lost 8 out his last 9 fights compares to the unbeaten Douglas who fought a 32-2 fighter with a 10 fight win streak then someone needs to take you off life support, you are ***ing hopelessly brain dead!!! Go back to drooling over your darling little ***s with their training wheels on stuck in the kiddie pool fighting each other's leftovers! Leave boxing for the real FANS, not cheerleader FANBOYS like you!
              Last edited by richardt; 03-06-2016, 12:48 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by richardt View Post
                If you think some HAPLESS, HELPLESS setup with a prospect going against a guy who lost 8 out his last 9 fights compares to the unbeaten Douglas who fought a 32-2 fighter with a 10 fight win streak then someone needs to take you off life support, you are ***ing hopelessly brain dead!!! Go back to drooling over your darling little ***s with their training wheels on stuck in the kiddie pool fighting each other's leftovera! Leave boxing for the real FANS, not cheerleader FANBOYS like you!
                Your not a real fan. Your a hater and a fanboy of everything PBC related. So what's the difference between Douglas fighting his competition and a guy like Sadam Ali who just lost to Vargas? Again your non objective and you speak out of both ends of your A$$.

                At the end of the day your a PBC Nut Hugger. Plain and Simple.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by LOCOMEX89 View Post
                  Your not a real fan. Your a hater and a fanboy of everything PBC related. So what's the difference between Douglas fighting his competition and a guy like Sadam Ali who just lost to Vargas? Again your non objective and you speak out of both ends of your A$$.

                  At the end of the day your a PBC Nut Hugger. Plain and Simple.
                  Hey ****** ***, if you had been reading I have been comparing weekly boxing shows on ShoBox, PBC and the crap cards by GoldenCrap and TopStink! I didn't mention anything about the HBO and Showtime cards, fool! Learn the difference between ShoBox and Showtime! Go back to watching your little love nest of prospects continually fighting guys on long losing streaks and leave the real boxing for adults who watch REAL fights, not ****** a$$ pageantries of kiddie pool fighters who only want to fight each other's leftovers! You are out of your league.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by richardt View Post
                    Hey ****** ***, if you had been reading I have been comparing weekly boxing shows on ShoBox, PBC and the crap cards by GoldenCrap and TopStink! I didn't mention anything about the HBO and Showtime cards, fool! Learn the difference between ShoBox and Showtime! Go back to watching your little love nest of prospects continually fighting guys on long losing streaks and leave the real boxing for adults who watch REAL fights, not ****** a$$ pageantries of kiddie pool fighters who only want to fight each other's leftovers! You are out of your league.
                    No your out of your league stay in the minors where you belong. Makes no sense what your saying because Top Rank and Golden Boy are with HBO while PBC is with ShoBox and other networks. So we want to eliminate the fights put on HBO Latino and HBO fights that feature prospects? Your just delusional and just plain ignorant.

                    At the end of the day we don't agree. In your mind ALL PBC and ShoBox fighters face top notch competition all the time which isn't the case. I believe fighting former titleholders, former contenders, and gaining experience is another way to develop young fighters. So continue just watching your PBC and ShoBox fights while the real boxing fans watch it all. We watch all boxing not just fights on one side of the fence.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by LOCOMEX89 View Post
                      No your out of your league stay in the minors where you belong. Makes no sense what your saying because Top Rank and Golden Boy are with HBO while PBC is with ShoBox and other networks. So we want to eliminate the fights put on HBO Latino and HBO fights that feature prospects? Your just delusional and just plain ignorant.

                      At the end of the day we don't agree. In your mind ALL PBC and ShoBox fighters face top notch competition all the time which isn't the case. I believe fighting former titleholders, former contenders, and gaining experience is another way to develop young fighters. So continue just watching your PBC and ShoBox fights while the real boxing fans watch it all. We watch all boxing not just fights on one side of the fence.
                      No one said anything about PBC and ShoBox showing nothing but top notch competition! And no one said anything about eliminated fights with prospects! If you had any brains or reading comprehension you would know that. Go back to your kiddie pool and watch your 15-0 darlings beat up on hapless 15-6 fighters with losing streaks and fighting each others damn leftovers and I'll watch 15-0 fighters fight 19-2 guys with winning streaks. You are nothing but biased fanboy who gets his rocks off watching blatant mismatches!!
                      Last edited by richardt; 03-07-2016, 11:34 PM.

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