Abel says gg will never fight at 155 and that Khan has better skills than canelo

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  • aldo5408
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    #1

    Abel says gg will never fight at 155 and that Khan has better skills than canelo


    This dude is even worse than that conniving **** duva
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    #2
    Looks like caNelo vs gg at 157?

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      #3
      Originally posted by aldo5408
      Looks like caNelo vs gg at 157?
      Alvarez will wait until the WBC says anything, mail them back their title(accompanied with a gracious letter from his camp), the WBC will hand Golovkin another belt, and HBO/K2 will be left trying to sell the boxing public on how meaningful a fight against Jorge Sebastian Heiland ends up being (while quietly hoping against hope that the WBA doesn't drop the hammer on him to take on Showtime's star middleweight "Miracle Man" Daniel Jacobs).

      Alvarez literally has no incentive to fight Golovkin (especially if he has the Cotto rematch or a fight against WBO 154 champ Liam Smith to ponder, with having Demetrius Andrade as a possible opponent also working).

      Golovkin's camp has been trying to "A-side" everyone, with the reality being that they aren't even all that good a generic "B-side" at this point; years of that bull**** has finally ****ed them.

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      • Greed.
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        Khan doesn't have better skills than Canelo. He's faster and more athletic but that's it. Canelo is more intelligent, has better foot placement, better punching technique, better head and upper body movement etc. Khan will find it harder to land on Canelo than vice versa. Khan is easy to hit when he's not moving.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Alvarez will wait until the WBC says anything, mail them back their title(accompanied with a gracious letter from his camp), the WBC will hand Golovkin another belt, and HBO/K2 will be left trying to sell the boxing public on how meaningful a fight against Jorge Sebastian Heiland ends up being (while quietly hoping against hope that the WBA doesn't drop the hammer on him to take on Showtime's star middleweight "Miracle Man" Daniel Jacobs).

          Alvarez literally has no incentive to fight Golovkin (especially if he has the Cotto rematch or a fight against WBO 154 champ Liam Smith to ponder, with having Demetrius Andrade as a possible opponent also working).

          Golovkin's camp has been trying to "A-side" everyone, with the reality being that they aren't even all that good a generic "B-side" at this point; years of that bull**** has finally ****ed them.
          Canelo does have no real incentive to fight GGG, he can get good money in all the fights you mentioned, and I don't see much hope of that fight happening, but I take issue with your contention that GGG would be hoping not to be mando'd for the Jacobs fight. Why would he not want to fight Jacobs?

          And trying to 'A-side' everyone? Who is everyone? There was just Ward - and only then if you take Sanchez' throwaway comments as an ironclad fight offer - which is probably reaching.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Alvarez will wait until the WBC says anything, mail them back their title(accompanied with a gracious letter from his camp), the WBC will hand Golovkin another belt, and HBO/K2 will be left trying to sell the boxing public on how meaningful a fight against Jorge Sebastian Heiland ends up being (while quietly hoping against hope that the WBA doesn't drop the hammer on him to take on Showtime's star middleweight "Miracle Man" Daniel Jacobs).

            Alvarez literally has no incentive to fight Golovkin (especially if he has the Cotto rematch or a fight against WBO 154 champ Liam Smith to ponder, with having Demetrius Andrade as a possible opponent also working).

            Golovkin's camp has been trying to "A-side" everyone, with the reality being that they aren't even all that good a generic "B-side" at this point; years of that bull**** has finally ****ed them.
            Excellent post Green k sent

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              Trying to "A" side everyone? wtf. , aside from the low ball offer they made to Monroe and he took it i don't know what you are talking about, they said they are 50/50 with Ward... that's not A side anything. A-side is when you dictate everything, from ring side, boxing golves, weight and get every other advantage you can to win a fight like Mayweather and paquio did for years, like Cotto and Canelo started doing. GGG has been the B-side his entire career giving away advantages and taking short money even as a champion he had to pretty much offer even money for the much less known Lemiux just to fight him, if he had done any of the A-side BS that mayweather did he wouldn't even get a fight... ever.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                Canelo does have no real incentive to fight GGG, he can get good money in all the fights you mentioned, and I don't see much hope of that fight happening, but I take issue with your contention that GGG would be hoping not to be mando'd for the Jacobs fight. Why would he not want to fight Jacobs?

                And trying to 'A-side' everyone? Who is everyone? There was just Ward - and only then if you take Sanchez' throwaway comments as an ironclad fight offer - which is probably reaching.
                Golovkin likely has no issue fighting Daniel Jacobs; it's a terrible style matchup (Jacobs is the bigger man, longer man, fresher man, has pop in both hands, can box coming/going, but he also has that caveat of his chin maybe not being up to snuff), but Golovkin likely still gets up for that fight.

                Golovkin's problem comes because Jacobs, in any fight negotiation, is walking into talks with big money and his own network backing him(not to mention the Barclays Center rallying behind him as 'MW king of Brooklyn').

                Showtime/Barclays Center are likely going to lay out serious money for that fight, and Golovkin/K2 will be left having to decide whether the WBA mandatory is worth their relationship with HBO(even with the WBA split being 75/25 of the purse bid, the bid winning promoter controls all of the event's revenues; Jacobs could theoretically eat it on the front end, to then make his own money on the back-end of the event).

                Beyond that, Golovkin's camp (Sanchez/Loeffler) tried to pull this stunt against Andre Ward, now are trying to dictate the weight of the fight to 'Canelo" Alvarez, and have spent the last 1-2 years acting as if Erislandy Lara and Demetrius Andrade, among other fighters, weren't even worth mentioning with Golovkin.

                The moment that Golovkin's first PPV brought in 100k-150k, underwhelming everyone's expectations if being honest, Golovkin and his camp should've shut their mouths about dictating anything.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Irony123
                  Trying to "A" side everyone? wtf. , aside from the low ball offer they made to Monroe and he took it i don't know what you are talking about, they said they are 50/50 with Ward... that's not A side anything. A-side is when you dictate everything, from ring side, boxing golves, weight and get every other advantage you can to win a fight like Mayweather and paquio did for years, like Cotto and Canelo started doing. GGG has been the B-side his entire career giving away advantages and taking short money even as a champion he had to pretty much offer even money for the much less known Lemiux just to fight him, if he had done any of the A-side BS that mayweather did he wouldn't even get a fight... ever.
                  -50/50 at 164 to Ward(who last fought at 160 a decade prior) was never a legitimate offer, especially after his camp was willing to chase fights against Froch and Chavez Jr; if you want to try and argue that, that's on you. Offer the fight to Ward at 168 and mention the split that you and your camp deem to be fair(my guess is that the split offer wouldn't be as fair as the hokey '50/50 on everything' scenario allowed things to be).

                  -Golovkin and his camp are in no position to big time/small time a possible opponent like Lara(has fought regularly on premium TV, arguably beat Alvarez, never been dominated in a fight) or Andrade(wunderkind talent simply looking for some TV support).

                  There's more to "A-side" talk that worrying about gloves and ring size.

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                  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                    #10
                    So GGG thinks hes special
                    • Pacquaio jumped up 2 weight classes for his shot at greatness against Oscar
                    • Mayweather jumped 1 weight class & bowed to ODH demand for his shot at greatness
                    • Canelo Went Down in Weight for his shot at greatness against Mayweather
                    • Ward Jumped up 1 Weight Class to Excell his claim for P4P Surpremecy against Kovalev



                    All these fighters were willing to take the risk necessary to claim and take the Glory they want, but GGG is not willing to do it. Go Home Coward YOU SCARED!

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