Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Manager: Braehmer, Fonfara Possible - Not Stevenson

[BaDaBingVIP2]

the fight i want to see is kovalev vs stevenson, but a fonfara matchup is not a bad scrap. fonfara gave stevenson trouble in their bout, i wouldnt mind seeing that rematch as well.

[bojangles1987]

At this point no one Kovalev will fight is interesting until he steps in the ring with Ward. We know he won't fight Stevenson, and no one else is worth paying attention to. Fonfara is no match for Kovalev, the guy would get killed within 5, and he's the best option.

[rasdun]

At this point no one Kovalev will fight is interesting until he steps in the ring with Ward. We know he won't fight Stevenson, and no one else is worth paying attention to. Fonfara is no match for Kovalev, the guy would get killed within 5, and he's the best option.

you mean we know Stevenson won't fight Kovalev - not the other way around. Stevenson's side asking for a joint ppv when he doesn't even have an exclusive contract with Showtime is laughable. Stevenson doesn't really care about proving himself as the best at 175, which is a shame b/c he's lineal champ. We all know that the winner of Kovalev v. Ward will be THE man at 175

[ShoulderRoll]

No if there was only one title per division:

- Stevenson would never have won a title in the first place. Lets be honest.

- If somehow he had, he would have vacated it to avoid Kovalev/Pascal/Hopkins. He's carefully weaseled his way out of all three but they've fought each other a combined 5 times.

There should be some loophole where you can't even be ranked in the top 10 when the other top 3 have fought each other 5 times and you fought Tommy Karpency.


There isn't really any circumstance in reality or fantasy world where Stevenson's "lineal" title has any meaning. His best win is Fonfara. He is not the man at 175. Never has been. Never will be.

If there was only one title per division Stevenson would have it, not Kovalev. It's like how Tyson Fury is the "real" heavyweight champion, not Charles Martin or Deontay Wilder.

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If there was only one title per division Stevenson would have it, not Kovalev. It's like how Tyson Fury is the "real" heavyweight champion, not Charles Martin or Deontay Wilder.

The post you're responding to is a response/counter to what you just typed. No he wouldn't.

The existence of 4 belts is what allows him to be "lineal" since he's bypassed the whole division and runs his own sideshow, so no, lineal means nothing here and if there were only one belt he wouldn't have it.

It's doubtful he would have won it in the first place and if he had, that one organization would have by now stepped in and stripped him for avoiding 3 fighters who are in widely seen as better than he is.

[ShoulderRoll]

The post you're responding to is a response/counter to what you just typed. No he wouldn't.

The existence of 4 belts is what allows him to be "lineal" since he's bypassed the whole division and runs his own sideshow, so no, lineal means nothing here and if there were only one belt he wouldn't have it.

It's doubtful he would have won it in the first place and if he had, that one organization would have by now stepped in and stripped him for avoiding 3 fighters who are in widely seen as better than he is.

The existence of 4 belts is what allows Kovalev to call himself a "champion."

Stevenson beat Chad Dawson who can trace his lineage back to when Roy Jones was the most dominant light heavyweight in the world. If there was only one belt like there should be then Kovalev would have to beat Adonis to be able to call himself the most dominant light heavyweight champion of this era.

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yeah its like stevenson beat a prime roy jones except he didnt. he merely stumbled upon the belt.

in reality his best win is a close fight with fonfara. chad dawson was already destroyed by the time they fought.

here in reality, if there was only one belt he wouldn't have it, he hasn't fought the top guys in his division and therefore isn't one.

[ShoulderRoll]

yeah its like stevenson beat a prime roy jones except he didnt. he merely stumbled upon the belt.

in reality his best win is a close fight with fonfara. chad dawson was already destroyed by the time they fought.

here in reality, if there was only one belt he wouldn't have it

Yes he would. Stevenson beat the man who beat the man at 175 pounds going all the way back to Roy Jones. You might not like Stevenson but that doesn't change the facts. Kovalev would be beltless right now if there was only one strap. It is what it is.

I might think Wilder could clobber Tyson Fury but until he does so I have to give full credit and respect to Fury for being the one true real, lineal champion. If there was only one belt per division as there should be then Deontay wouldn't have one at the moment.

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How would Kovalev still be beltless?

Even the most corrupt org in the world would have been forced to strip stevenson by now if he hadn't fought kovalev hopkins or pascal and there was only one belt up for grabs.

If Tyson Fury over the next 3 years fights Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer and ignores all the top fighters in his division then yes we can create a comparison. Yet again if that was the only belt in the world, he would be stripped before he could do that.

[Hougigo]

im still not so sure kovalev is the better fighter between the 2. I think if i was betting kovalev stevenson i might have to go with kov cause of age. its a shame well never get to find out. if were talking style matchups tho i actually think kovalev is a better style for fanfora then stevenson but thats just my opinion

I'm opposite side of the fence. He does his best when coming forward and if you push him back, he'll struggle. He's also pretty easy to hit, he's a grinder who picks up the pace.

That's how he took off on Campillo and Stevenson after being down.

Kov, IMO, will chop him down when he backs him up and pushes forward