As a LHW where do you rank Beterbiev?

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  • kiaba360
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    #11
    Objectively, Beterbiev cannot be ahead of Kov/Adonis. At most, he's #3, but Fonfara/Alvarez/Braehmer/B-Hop have more fights. Does beating a faded Cloud and Campillo really mean THAT much? Beterbeast is still mostly hype, but he is a top ten LHW.

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    Last edited by kiaba360; 02-15-2016, 06:46 PM.

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    • Chrismart
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      #12
      I'd have him behind Kovalev, Stevenson and Fonfara. That said i'd take him to beat Fonfara if they met.
      Braehmer and Alvarez also.

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      • MisterPullman
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        #13
        Originally posted by aldo5408
        How is kkkov more technical if beterbiev already outboxed him. Its not fair to say he's more technical, stronger yes
        Nope. No outboxing, Beterbiev had a gift decision in HIS hometown. Split decision.

        The pros are very very different.. and look how much Kovalev has improved since his first 10 bouts

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        • MisterPullman
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          #14
          Here is what Kovalev said to Artur Beterbiev: "When did you beat me, Arthur? In your dreams maybe? The fact that corrupt judges in Magnitogorsk gave you one point advantage does not mean anything and during our sparring in Russia's national team (all other Russian boxers can confirm it) your head was flown back down to your ass. You did not have the balls to face young Chilemba, but preferred to fight the shot Spaniard whom I devastated in his prime and he is now a journeyman. You should fight real opposition and deserve the fight with me first and then I'll punish you for your conceit and your lies about beating me in the amateurs."

          God, I love Kovalev so much lol

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          • boxinghead530
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            #15
            Originally posted by aldo5408
            How is kkkov more technical if beterbiev already outboxed him. Its not fair to say he's more technical, stronger yes
            Dude beterbiev has fought nobody. You put credit into Kovalev losing to him in the amateurs? How they fight in the pros compared to the amateurs is so different, it's almost a different sport. So beterbiev beating kov doesn't mean much. Kovalev is a much much better all around fighter. He does most everything better and has better power.

            Beterbiev need to fight someone with a pulse so we can see his real potential.

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            • ironmike2012
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              #16
              5-10

              1. Kov
              2. Stevenson
              Fonfara
              Ward (not rank yet, but 168 champ)
              Others


              Beterbiev has yet to beat any top contenders, so to have in the top 10 is being generous, but he has beat down everyone (Cloud and Campillo, former champs on the downside), so that deserves top 10, he can beat anyone ranked lower than 10, so can't be lower than that.

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              • MisterPullman
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                #17
                Originally posted by ironmike2012
                5-10

                1. Kov
                2. Stevenson
                Fonfara
                Ward (not rank yet, but 168 champ)
                Others


                Beterbiev has yet to beat any top contenders, so to have in the top 10 is being generous, but he has beat down everyone (Cloud and Campillo, former champs on the downside), so that deserves top 10, he can beat anyone ranked lower than 10, so can't be lower than that.
                Oh come on man.. Beterbiev beat the snot out of decent opposition for the start of career.. just as well as Kovalev did.

                Beterbiev beats Stevenson.. he might lose to Ward however

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                  #18
                  #1 stevenson(Lineal)
                  #2 kovalev
                  #3 fonfara

                  Andre Ward is above ALL BUT he hasnt earned it at 175 yet gotta see

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                  • MisterPullman
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BlackSoul
                    #1 stevenson(Lineal)
                    #2 kovalev
                    #3 fonfara

                    Andre Ward is above ALL BUT he hasnt earned it at 175 yet gotta see
                    Now take your race bias away what happens then?

                    Stevenson is a bum. He struggled with Fonfara, the same Fonfara who went to war with Cleverly LMAO

                    Stevenson isn't even top 3 IMO

                    #1 Kovalev
                    #2 Beterbiev
                    #3 Ward

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                    • BlackSoul
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Tyson Fluffy
                      Now take your race bias away what happens then?

                      Stevenson is a bum. He struggled with Fonfara, the same Fonfara who went to war with Cleverly LMAO

                      Stevenson isn't even top 3 IMO

                      #1 Kovalev
                      #2 Beterbiev
                      #3 Ward
                      is stevenson not the LINEAL champion of LHW division?

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