Does boxing need a Biological Passport?

[_Maxi]

To those who are not aware of what it is, it's this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_passport

They basically test you off competition and on competition and record all your meassurements during the year, to ensure that they don't find any weird variation.

It's not 100% accurate but for example it tests often the Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio and compares it's evolution during the year to ensure nothing weird happens.

But we know that boxing is not being managed as a sport, and probably it will never happen. It's being managed as a business alone, like dog fighting.

[Dr Rumack]

Yeah it would be cool if boxing had it. I think we all know that someone has to die at the hands of a fighter who tests positive before anything major will happen though. That's just how boxing is.

[Eastcoast]

I've been saying this for a years now. In order to hold a sports combat license, the athlete should be tested every month and have all their levels measured to create a control chart for the individual.

[Eff Pandas]

I think there is a lot of things boxing needs & will eventually get to. I think the good doctor is right doe & someone will need to die via a PED caught fighter before change happens. I mean look at the Magomed incident & imagine how much bigger that would have been if Mike Perez had been caught using PEDs. That woulda been a huge blow for boxing, but it would've moved the bar on making changes with PED testing, which is half ass at best these days.

My boxing wishlist:

-Weight divisions/weight ranges a fighter can fight at assigned upon being given a boxing license thus losing massive amounts of weight is no longer a sport within the combat sports world

-Any idiot who can pass a physical shouldn't be allowed to be a pro fighter, there are far too many "pro fighters" in the world.

-Tiered structure, like baseball has for example with Rookie to A to AA to AAA to major league, with boxers, Kovalev & Stevenson couldn't fight pizza delivery men & FED EX guys they'd have to fight someone in the top 10 or whatever each time out

-A restructuring of the PED testing protocol or an acceptance of certain PEDs that "help" the fighter recovery outside the ring & don't "hurt" the opponent in the ring, right now I feel like boxing is playing the grey area of PEDs expertly until some real crisis precipitates change in this arena

-Throw out all the titles & rankings except one or create one title & weed out the corrupt titles in the industry now

-Create a centralized power structure that can actually implement these sorta changes across the board & have boxing run like a real sport instead of some fly by night circus atmosphere

[Eff Pandas]

I've been saying this for a years now. In order to hold a sports combat license, the athlete should be tested every month and have all their levels measured to create a control chart for the individual.

The first problem there is there are too many fighters so the cost to do that would be nuts. I guess if you throw the cost on the fighter you would get less licensed fighters so maybe the math works out that way idk. I'm pro less part time fighters being considered pro fighters anyway so that would work for me.

[AllEyesOpen]

USADA uses Biological passport.

[Eastcoast]

The first problem there is there are too many fighters so the cost to do that would be nuts. I guess if you throw the cost on the fighter you would get less licensed fighters so maybe the math works out that way idk. I'm pro less part time fighters being considered pro fighters anyway so that would work for me.

By economies of scale, having all athletes involved would drive down the cost per athlete. This is especially true if athletes from NFL, MLB, NBA are all forced to be involved.

Now when you have a fighter like J-Rock who wants to do 24/7 Olympic Style testing, he needs a sponsor to help him pay for it. But if you had a 1,000 different fighters all doing it, there could be a stream-lined system readily available because it'd be feasible for the lab(s) to be setup that way.

I've heard some people advocate fighter's earning less than a set amount could be excluded from testing so that's an option too. Like arguing that fighter's earning below ~$30k a year would have a low incentive to invest into PEDs.

[The Akbar One]

To those who are not aware of what it is, it's this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_passport

They basically test you off competition and on competition and record all your meassurements during the year, to ensure that they don't find any weird variation.

It's not 100% accurate but for example it tests often the Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio and compares it's evolution during the year to ensure nothing weird happens.

But we know that boxing is not being managed as a sport, and probably it will never happen. It's being managed as a business alone, like dog fighting.

Nope, because it's not accurate all the time. There will always be exceptions and natural changes in biological organisms. Somebody shouldn't be penalized because a natural change, was read as using a P.E.D.

[_Maxi]

USADA uses Biological passport.

No boxer is doing 365 days a year random testing. I think only a few were doing it, and no, Mayweather is not some of them.

USADA is not using the ABP in boxers.

[Eff Pandas]

Nope, because it's not accurate all the time. There will always be exceptions and natural changes in biological organisms. Somebody shouldn't be penalized because a natural change, was read as using a P.E.D.

Nothing is perfect. For sure anyone pro-PED testing should be for year round testing of some sort. The biggest problem right now is the state commissions in most areas aren't doing sufficient testing. Tarver is the best example. Tarver passed the state commissions testing, but got caught by the USADA testing.