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  • Originally posted by original zero View Post
    Rath claimed over and over for 40 pages that USADA never addressed Hauser's errors.

    http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf

    Suddenly he's gone silent.
    Don't be too hard on Rath. He's just trying to get Manny to respect him. Show some compassion. Imagine if your favorite athlete, idol and hero thought you were "worse than an animal."

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    • Originally posted by original zero View Post
      Rath claimed over and over for 40 pages that USADA never addressed Hauser's errors.

      http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf

      Suddenly he's gone silent.
      USADA response

      This statement contains multiple inaccuracies. Mr. Mayweather was
      notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45
      pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena
      for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was
      continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection
      was completed at approximately 8:15 pm.


      Also USADA does not conduct "random" testing. Rather, in
      accordance with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) International
      Standard for Testing and Investigations (ISTI), testing is carried out
      pursuant to a strategic testing plan to maximize deterrence and
      detection.

      USADA does not conduct random testing, what say you about this?

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        Don't be too hard on Rath. He's just trying to get Manny to respect him. Show some compassion. Imagine if your favorite athlete, idol and hero thought you were "worse than an animal."
        USADA does not conduct random testing.

        what say you about this?

        what happened to Floyd style random drug test?

        SHAME ON YOU

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        • gotta love rath . . . king of moving the goal posts.

          when floyd & manny both come out of retirement in 2017 and floyd beats manny again (with no top rank involvement), how is rath going to handle it?

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          • Originally posted by original zero View Post
            We have HIPAA laws and it's none of your business what Floyd's medical condition was.
            I've been a high level athlete you dumbass. You wave HIPAA as part of your consent form to testing. Drug testing would not be possible without a HIPAA waiver.

            WADA allows retroactive exemptions for IV use.
            Only in the case of severe dehydration. Which WADA defines as a loss of 7% of body-weight. Are you arguing that Floyd was 157 days before?

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            • Originally posted by original zero View Post
              IV is allowed in Nevada. Confirmed by Nevada.
              Yet you still can't cite the ****ing rule that says so. All you can do is repeat the lie that you are a promoter and your lawyers have told you blah blah blah. Shut the **** up! Cite the actual rule.

              You will notice that we going on a year removed and NSAC still has not added IV re-hydration to the approved list. Why? Well because it is still a major issue in more sports than boxing. UFC has come down hard on IV re-hydration. If the NSAC added it to the allowed list then they would be undercutting the UFC. So we are stuck in this contradictory universe where the NSAC "says" that Mayweather didn't break the rules but still haven't clarified that in the rules because the UFC doesn't want it legal.
              Last edited by GTTofAK; 02-18-2016, 11:24 AM.

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              • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                gotta love rath . . . king of moving the goal posts.

                when floyd & manny both come out of retirement in 2017 and floyd beats manny again (with no top rank involvement), how is rath going to handle it?
                in the rematch if it was fought in the philippins and all philpinos judges and a philpinos ref and a philpinos compubox counter,

                together with philpinos drug testing agency and random type (not the floyd and genius floyd fans kind of random)

                and Floyd wins, then i will give you 2 million dollars incold cash.

                if not you can expect me to do this post and threads for more years to come.

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                • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                  Yet you still can't cite the ****ing rule that says so. All you can do is repeat the lie that you are a promoter and your lawyers have told you blah blah blah. Shut the **** up! Cite the actual rule.

                  You will notice that we going on a year removed and NSAC still has not added IV re-hydration to the approved list. Why? Well because it is still a major issue in more sports than boxing. UFC has come down hard on IV re-hydration. If the NSAC added it to the allowed list then would be undercutting the UFC. So we are stuck in this contradictory universe where the NSAC "says" that Mayweather didn't break the rules but still haven't clarified that in the rules because the UFC doesn't want it legal.
                  he sticks to his lies like a flea sticks to a dog.

                  hhe has been doing that since the time we start our debate.

                  i am not as good as you in articulating what i really meant so it took a lot of going around the bush pages.

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                  • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                    gotta love rath . . . king of moving the goal posts.

                    when floyd & manny both come out of retirement in 2017 and floyd beats manny again (with no top rank involvement), how is rath going to handle it?
                    the thread question still stands

                    which goal post did i moved?

                    i told you that article was in reply for Hauser's firs article.

                    there was a second article hauser made after that and USADA gone silent.

                    by the way the link that you provide now does not work anymore after i made a thread about random hahahahahaha

                    maybe USADA is a genius floyd fan after all.

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                    • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                      there was a second article hauser made after that and USADA gone silent.
                      USADA knew their first response was shallow. It read like a reply to a complaint. When someone files civil suit and you are hit with the complaint you have to respond to every single allegation made or the court takes them as fact. Such replies are often shallow and fall apart on scrutiny.

                      After Hauser responded USADA decided it was best not to get into an argument that they wouldn't win. They know what they did. They know that they took money from boxing promoters to look to other way. They know that they have internal leaks. If they kept fighting Hauser more leaks would come out and eventually they would wind up thrown out of WADA or worse yet some of their executives in jail.

                      What actually happened is very simple IMHO. USADA goes to Froids house for a random test. Froid had been tipped off ahead of time by higher ups in USADA but for some reason this time the collector catches Froid with IV marks. The collector is just an employee. He doesn't get big fat bonus checks from all the TMT money like USADA executives get. He informs USADA about what he found. USADA does nothing because their executives are on the take. Rumors circulate between USADA employees and the executives begin to fear another leak like happened with their coverup of Morales' failed tests. So almost three weeks after they have Froid apply for a retroactive TUE. They make up a story about Froid being dehydrated and I can assure you that the actual collector that saw the IV marks now has a big fat check along with an NDA.
                      Last edited by GTTofAK; 02-18-2016, 07:13 PM.

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