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  • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
    Wow! That's the closest you can catch a crook in admitting he's a crook lmao

    Froid roid stinks a mile away.. Actually not just a mile, it's more like over oceans and seas lol


    Here you go. Even in other fights, its relatively stable.





    You sure have a lot of pictures of Floyd in his underwear.

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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      How many Floyd fans waited for proof before bashing Manny who stated that he had a shoulder injury? They didn't wait to hear no doctor. Even after they did, they were still bashing.



      Sorry but you do not need to be a doctor to explain to people that you were dehydrated.

      Sorry but you do not need to be a doctor to understand and explain to people why you were dehydrated and say that it was because of his training.

      Only a few Floyd fans believe that silliness!!!






      1. NSAC has come up with evidence against athletes who over-hydrate and used that against the athlete. So its important to know ....
      Secondly, NSAC is saying that they are the sole authority on TUEs. So why was USADA approving TUEs? That is a fake TUE approval!

      2. I did not have to be in his camp. The events that lead up to the IV were recorded. If it was brought to court, all that would be used and you know it.

      Lawyer: So Floyd you make weight easily, your walking weight, fight night weight, weigh in weight, 30 days out weight are relatively stable yet you claim that you were "severely dehydrated" and that is why you needed an IV? Sorry Floyd but science is not on your side!



      3. Partial means not full. Right? So if he could have given more then USADA would have had a complete sample beforehand. Get it?

      4. "Ariza monitored so what" I love this line. Why? Remember the DCO that day? What was he doing? "The DCO who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV." Like we kept on telling you, "SO WHAT that the DCo monitored!!!"

      Floyd is not like those other fighters who need to rehydrate 15-20lbs.

      5. Floyd was at worst, mildly dehydrated. Like I told you a million times, we know why because Floyd told us. You are using ignorance as a defense. even then, its still called very mild dehydration. WADA, USADA, studies all have proven you wrong time and time again that for mild dehydration and they even bring up moderate dehydration orally is very effective. On top of that, Floyd was not even training that day. ITs all a big joke!


      GlobalDRO
      "WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport. "


      STUDIES
      "Participants went from mildly dehydrated to fully hydrated in 45 minutes by consuming 600mL of water."


      USADA
      •Monitor fluid losses: Weigh-in before and after training, especially during hot weather and conditioning phases of the season
      •For each pound lost during exercise, drink three cups of fluid

      WADA
      It must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred
      the****utic choice, deemed by some authorities as being even more effective than the parenteral option.


      WADA
      No permitted alternative treatment exists.

      WADA
      Other non-prohibited alternative treatments
      Oral rehydration or oral delivery of medication




      You do not want to get it. The data is already there that shows that FLoyd was slightly dehydrated at worst. You said but we need to take into consideration that FLoyd's walking weight was much higher. Well I proved to you again using Floyd's own statements that it was about the same as his fight night weight if not less.

      There is no indication of severe dehydration so you keep on hiding behind Lance's, I mean Dr Ariza's, I mean Floyd's paid doctor's note. lol!!!





      Embarrassing is trying to defend Floyd. He was not dehydrated to the point of requiring an IV. So you hide behind Floyd's paid doctor's note.

      You check out any case and the defended can get you an expert or doctor to defend even though the guy is guilty. That is all that I'm saying and you know it!




      Chronic? Are you seriously bringing this up again? Floyd admitted that he weighed close to fight night weight if not lower!!!! Please stop defending this crime!!!


      read this and weep!!!!!!
      "I'm a lot stronger even though I only walk around at 147". "Most guys have to drain themselves to come down. They doing that for 10 years."
      "For 10 years I have been fighting at the weight that I walk around at 147. "When I do not train my weight fluctuates between 147 and 150. So I walk around 147/148. So that is why its easy for me to make the weight"


      You still think Floyd was dehydrated?




      Those exact words are not there because they are pointing out that its a clarification to what is in WADA's documentation. Not hard to understand.




      You are still with this chronic condition!!!! Floyd didn't have that. So why are you still with this stuff? You guys just want to find loopholes.


      WADA
      Circumstances are considered to be exceptional when, for example, a TUE cannot be granted in time through no fault of the Athlete.
      Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. Nevertheless, the case of a normally healthy Athlete suddenly affected by a significant medical condition some days prior to an event, and unable to request a TUE within the allotted time to enable the TUEC to grant the TUE, may be considered as an “exceptional circumstance”.

      Suddenly means acute ....


      Athletes should remember that the TUE Application should be submitted at least 30 days before participating in an event


      .
      You still don't understand the meaning of "or"?

      Wtf?

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      • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        Floyd also said he was dehydrated due to giving urine, blood and due to old age.

        That makes him a pretty ****** doctor. Good news, he is a boxer.

        Mike Tyson in a post fight interview said "I broke my back". Good thing he isn't a doctor either.

        So you don't know **** and all you can do is speculate. Delusional.



        WADA has not reversed the tue issued by USADA.

        ZERO SPECULATION.

        See how easy that was?

        Well Floyd was fumbling due to that unexpected question. So he was trying to cover-up a lie and got all mixed up. That is what I have been telling you from the start!!!

        Floyd then went on subsequent interviews and kept consistent with it being due to his hard workouts.


        You keep on saying this as if they even reviewed it. That is called speculation:
        "WADA has not reversed the tue issued by USADA.["



        Lets face it. Floyd admits that he walks around the weight that he weighs in at. We even witnessed him drinking fluids orally. Enough to recover from mild dehydration. There is a lot more ..... So the proof is all there.

        You on the other hand have come up with ZERO evidence.

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        • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          You still don't understand the meaning of "or"?

          Wtf?

          That is all you have to say?

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            That is all you have to say?
            That's all that needs to be said. You keep posting wada code about retroactive tues out of context because you don't accept the word "or".

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post


              You keep on saying this as if they even reviewed it. That is called speculation:
              "WADA has not reversed the tue issued by USADA."
              SPECULATION? Nope. You are the one speculating that WADA hasn't reviewed the tue, but the fact remains WADA has not reversed the TUE.

              Floyd's physician lying on the a tue application that you have never read....that's speculation.

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              • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                That's all that needs to be said. You keep posting wada code about retroactive tues out of context because you don't accept the word "or".
                You guys still bringing this up even though it has nothing to do with Floyd.

                You guys need to understand that if something comes up all of a sudden days before the event then that is either an emergency or an acute condition.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  You guys still bringing this up even though it has nothing to do with Floyd.

                  You guys need to understand that if something comes up all of a sudden days before the event then that is either an emergency or an acute condition.
                  "You guys" aren't bringing it up. Its written in the International Standard for Theraputic Use Exemptions. The istue is wada official code. Not guideline or a reference to a 3rd party interpretation or Thomas HAUSER. Its the official code.

                  And regarding retro active tues:


                  4.2 Unless one of the exceptions set out in Article 4.3 applies, an Athlete who
                  needs to Use a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for The****utic reasons
                  must obtain a TUE prior to Using or Possessing the substance or method in
                  question.



                  Do I need to post the 4 different exeptional circumstances the code is referring to?


                  Deny "or" all you want but it makes you look Delusional.
                  Last edited by Dosumpthin; 04-08-2016, 01:23 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                    SPECULATION? Nope. You are the one speculating that WADA hasn't reviewed the tue, but the fact remains WADA has not reversed the TUE.

                    Floyd's physician lying on the a tue application that you have never read....that's speculation.

                    You go back to your posts. You bring it up like as if WADA reviewed it. That is called speculation. Sorry. If that is not what you mean, cool but then why even bring it up?


                    The doctor may lie or may just write a note consistent with what Floyd said to him.

                    Like I said earlier today, my doctor was ready to give me 2 prescriptions a month ago for something that I didn't even have. I said no, I do not want to take drugs if you are not sure ..... You may think its BS but its the truth ..... yes it was me telling the doctor not the other way around. Imagine that? The doctor agreed with me and said lets monitor this until sometime in May .....

                    Well, I have been monitoring and can say that he was wrong with his conclusion. That is not even my point. The point is that its not too hard to convince your doctor that you have something and need a note. Even more so if the Dr was not even there and it was Dr Ariza that prescribed the IV.

                    Floyd has been interviewed and said that Floyd thanked Dr Ariza for helping him get rehydrated in a professional matter. So that is why I call you and others waiting to see something on a doctor's note that was more than likely not even there a big joke.


                    Floyd admitted who told him how to rehydrate when he was extremely dehydrated. Dr Ariza!!!!

                    3:00 mark

                    "I have to thank Dr Alex Ariza. For the Manny fight he made sure that I ate the right food. He made sure that I was not dehydrated because I think the day before the fight I was extremely dehydrated because I really push myself to the limit. I always push myself. Dr Ariza made sure I was not dehydrated and showed me how to rehydrate myself like an athlete should in a professional matter.



                    T

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                    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                      "You guys" aren't bringing it up. Its written in the International Standard for Theraputic Use Exemptions. The istue is wada official code. Not guideline or a reference to a 3rd party interpretation or Thomas HAUSER. Its the official code.

                      And regarding retro active tues:


                      4.2 Unless one of the exceptions set out in Article 4.3 applies, an Athlete who
                      needs to Use a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for The****utic reasons
                      must obtain a TUE prior to Using or Possessing the substance or method in
                      question.



                      Do I need to post the 4 different exeptional circumstances the code is referring to?


                      Deny "or" all you want but it makes you look Delusional.
                      If you read in one of my previous posts, I provided text given by WADA .....


                      Here is another

                      What if an emergency arises for which I do not have the time or ability to
                      verify that the medication required is free of banned substances?

                      In exceptional circumstances, when an acute life-threatening medical condition requires immediate intervention involving the use of a medication containing a prohibited substance, you and your physician must apply for a the****utic use exemption immediately after the treatment has been delivered.

                      However, it is expected that such cases will occur very rarely and the****utic use exemptions will therefore be granted in emergency situations under close scrutiny.


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                      Last edited by ADP02; 04-08-2016, 01:51 AM.

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