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  • #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Bad comparison, considering nelo is supposed to be one of Floyd's best wins and baldomir isn't!

    So Floyd is worried khan will beat nelo at his beloved 155 that would make Floyd look real bad, similar to how PAC beating hatton in 2 rounds did at hatton best weight.
    its inaccurate when making these comparisons unless the actual fighters compared have faced each other.
    floyd beat him first (ricky) we all know fmj is/was a slow starter at times whereas manny was/is a fast starter. baldomir is not a fighter with whom to compare. look at it like this, kostya tzyu kod judah(unbeaten) in 2 and floyd went 12 with judah later on in his career BUT, ricky retired tzyu! and baldomir(irrelevant) beat judah!!! so....see what you make of that!! lol

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    • #42
      Originally posted by micky1971 View Post
      49 and 0, beaten everyone who actually counts over almost 20 yrs and christ knows how many elite,world champions, "0"s hes taken and remained unbeaten and ducking who? i have a word for these joeys who think "hes ducked khan" and that word is ****.
      Problem with Floyd is his vision of the sport, not his record.
      He saw the sport as a business and a show, not a passion.

      Die hard fans don't see the sport as a WWC bullshyt.

      Don't get me wrong he's a great fighter and an awesome talent.

      But all the ATGs, Duran, Ali were true minded warriors.
      An this because they wanted to fight the bests at their best.
      They never found excuses to avoid a particular fight, claiming, "I'm the face of the sport so FY I chose my opponent".

      Floyd will always have doubters about his best fights and his opposition.
      As Floyd said, "SAFETY FIRST", and that's his own right to protect his body.

      Floyd fought the bests, but at their worst.
      Let's look at his best wins : Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto.
      Those are the 3 best fighters he fought IMO:
      Mosley was shot, Cotto has been exposed and beaten to pulp twice and I don't know what to think about finally fighting Manny once Marquez sparked him.

      The guy b!tched about fighting a midget who was a bum according to his crew...
      That was just ridiculous, I can't respect this approach of the sport.

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      • #43
        Mayweather is right. The real fight for Khan would've been Brook. THAT would've been a risky choice as he'd be putting his reply on the line as well as is health. No one expects him to beat can Canelo so he has nothing going to lose. Some risk. It's Hatton/Witter all over again. One thinks it's enough to believe you're better than your peers rather than actually prove it.

        And for those talking about the crappy Berto fight, you really want to compare Mayweather and Khan's back catalogues? Even from 2012 to 2015? You're comparing the guy that takes on champs as warm ups to a guy that goes life and death with Julio freaking Diaz. Mayweather might be a douche but he's right on this one.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
          Problem with Floyd is his vision of the sport, not his record.
          He saw the sport as a business and a show, not a passion.

          Die hard fans don't see the sport as a WWC bullshyt.

          Don't get me wrong he's a great fighter and an awesome talent.

          But all the ATGs, Duran, Ali were true minded warriors.
          An this because they wanted to fight the bests at their best.
          They never found excuses to avoid a particular fight, claiming, "I'm the face of the sport so FY I chose my opponent".

          Floyd will always have doubters about his best fights and his opposition.
          As Floyd said, "SAFETY FIRST", and that's his own right to protect his body.

          Floyd fought the bests, but at their worst.
          Let's look at his best wins : Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto.
          Those are the 3 best fighters he fought IMO:
          Mosley was shot, Cotto has been exposed and beaten to pulp twice and I don't know what to think about finally fighting Manny once Marquez sparked him.

          The guy b!tched about fighting a midget who was a bum according to his crew...
          That was just ridiculous, I can't respect this approach of the sport.
          How do you hold against someone when a person turns down fighting him? Let me put it another way-you surely wouldn't hold it against GGG that people turned him down, so why would you hold it against Floyd?

          Floyd didn't cause Mosley's toothache, ODH to turn him down,Manny to refuse in 09 or get stitches in 2013 or cotto to feel he wasn't ready.

          IT's fine if you do not like Floyd or don't respect him, but at least be honest about why the fights didn't happen and hold your favorite fighters accountable for their actions relative to Floyd.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            How do you hold against someone when a person turns down fighting him? Let me put it another way-you surely wouldn't hold it against GGG that people turned him down, so why would you hold it against Floyd?

            Floyd didn't cause Mosley's toothache, ODH to turn him down,Manny to refuse in 09 or get stitches in 2013 or cotto to feel he wasn't ready.

            IT's fine if you do not like Floyd or don't respect him, but at least be honest about why the fights didn't happen and hold your favorite fighters accountable for their actions relative to Floyd.
            That's Floyd's versions, I'm just not buying all your package.

            Not saying it always was Floyd's fault.
            It's well reported that Mosley had a toothache but what's the point?
            So he had to fight Floyd in that shape or wait for 5 years?

            What about P.WILLIAMS, K.TSZYU, V.FOREST??
            There were a lot of good foes.

            Instead he fought all the Ortiz, Bertos, Baldomirs and Hatton of the world.

            In my opinion, Floyd get the fights he wants when he wants.

            Cats act like he was feared fighter while with this guy you get the biggest payday of your life without getting KTFO.

            My point is he hasn't taken a risky fight for the last 10 years.
            He fought guys he knew he could beat 100%.

            Corrales was a risky fight altough it ended as an easy one.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
              Mayweather ducked Khan? I'm mean, sure, Mayweather must of been frightened as hell against the guy who blew out Chris Algieri. I mean PAC knocked him down 6 times.

              Khan, wasted him really, um, wait, no he didn't.

              I'm sure Floyd was scared of Khan doe.
              Of course, he's scared of Khan.

              Use your brain for a second:

              1.
              Floyd had two choices: Maidana or Khan. Maidana brings less money to the table, and Khan brings more money. Who does Floyd pick? Maidana. Why would he go for less money?

              Floyd made an online poll too. Khan won that poll. Who did Floyd fight? Maidana. Why?


              2.
              Floyd had two choices: Berto or Khan. Berto brings less money to the table, and Khan brings more money. Who does Floyd pick? Berto.
              Why?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                That's Floyd's versions, I'm just not buying all your package.

                Not saying it always was Floyd's fault.
                It's well reported that Mosley had a toothache but what's the point?
                So he had to fight Floyd in that shape or wait for 5 years?

                What about P.WILLIAMS, K.TSZYU, V.FOREST??
                There were a lot of good foes.

                Instead he fought all the Ortiz, Bertos, Baldomirs and Hatton of the world.

                In my opinion, Floyd get the fights he wants when he wants.

                Cats act like he was feared fighter while with this guy you get the biggest payday of your life without getting KTFO.

                My point is he hasn't taken a risky fight for the last 10 years.
                He fought guys he knew he could beat 100%.

                Corrales was a risky fight altough it ended as an easy one.
                Agreed. Floyd is an ATG. But, I cannot put him in the top 15. Why? Because when was the last time he fought someone who brought danger?

                How would Floyd do against guys like Hagler, Leonard, Robinson? Well, Floyd's resume doesn't show him fighting anyone like Hagler, Leonard, and Robinson.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                  That's Floyd's versions, I'm just not buying all your package.

                  Not saying it always was Floyd's fault.
                  It's well reported that Mosley had a toothache but what's the point?
                  So he had to fight Floyd in that shape or wait for 5 years?

                  What about P.WILLIAMS, K.TSZYU, V.FOREST??
                  There were a lot of good foes.

                  Instead he fought all the Ortiz, Bertos, Baldomirs and Hatton of the world.

                  In my opinion, Floyd get the fights he wants when he wants.

                  Cats act like he was feared fighter while with this guy you get the biggest payday of your life without getting KTFO.

                  My point is he hasn't taken a risky fight for the last 10 years.
                  He fought guys he knew he could beat 100%.

                  Corrales was a risky fight altough it ended as an easy one.
                  Thats not Floyd's versions, these are the decisions these men made on their own.

                  So you fault floyd more for not giving Mosley a fight when Mosley asked for it after Mosley turned it down when floyd asked for it. How is that even possible?

                  WHat about them? Are you only holding not fighting them against Floyd? what about the others that didn't fight those guys? You are being extremely selective in your outrage.

                  No one is acting like he is feared. I am asking you how can you hold it against Floyd when these men decided not to fight him. Did they have to fear being KO'd, no. But they did fear something.

                  Before he fought them, floyd was allegedly afraid of these men. WHen they turned him down, they were all prime and great. They finally decide to fight and then they aren't risks. You can't change after the fact.

                  The truth is floyd was always a high risk fight for anyone. He may not Ko you but he would easily frustrtate you, make you look bad and get a UD win. When he wasn't a big earner, ODH, Kosta and Mosley wouldn't fight him. Cotto wasn't ready. Manny turned him down in 09 then allowed Bov's son in law to give him unnecessary stitches 2 months after the JMM fight so he suddenly wouldn't be ready to fight before floyd went to jail.

                  Again, you are entitled to your opinion. It just is sickening to see you hold another mans decision to not fight floyd against Floyd when assessing his career. That's extremely unfair and not something posters do with other fighters.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                    Problem with Floyd is his vision of the sport, not his record.
                    He saw the sport as a business and a show, not a passion.

                    Die hard fans don't see the sport as a WWC bullshyt.

                    Don't get me wrong he's a great fighter and an awesome talent.

                    But all the ATGs, Duran, Ali were true minded warriors.
                    An this because they wanted to fight the bests at their best.
                    They never found excuses to avoid a particular fight, claiming, "I'm the face of the sport so FY I chose my opponent".

                    Floyd will always have doubters about his best fights and his opposition.
                    As Floyd said, "SAFETY FIRST", and that's his own right to protect his body.

                    Floyd fought the bests, but at their worst.
                    Let's look at his best wins : Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto.
                    Those are the 3 best fighters he fought IMO:
                    Mosley was shot, Cotto has been exposed and beaten to pulp twice and I don't know what to think about finally fighting Manny once Marquez sparked him.

                    The guy b!tched about fighting a midget who was a bum according to his crew...
                    That was just ridiculous, I can't respect this approach of the sport.
                    i do agree with some of this but, fmj demonstrates the art of "striking an opponent without being hit" near perfectly! that is what the sport is.
                    it has evolved over the decades into a money game where people wanna see kos and blood for their "fight fan" kick.
                    i dont think its that hes not fought everyone and i do agree hes fought fellahs past their best but, lets use the fighters you speak of starting with mosley...
                    shot! you say, i say he just served up a vicious beating on plasterito who we all thought would batter him because HE just took miguel cottos unbeaten record then, miguel cotto had then after losing to fmj (being all washed up) went on to ko easily (as predicted by me at the time) the alledged king of 154 sergio martinez. the pacman fight was predictably a washout of freddie and pac excuses and changes of opinion which nobody honestly saw coming.
                    i expected manny to atleast throw more but, never had a clue on how against a far superior fighter. remember, people will always say "oh he was to inexperienced or over the hill" its never gonna be right or fair because there will always be haters.

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                    • #50
                      Mayweather wasn't afraid of Khan, he was just annoyed with him constantly bad mouthing him and didn't want to give Khan the satisfaction of goading him into a fight. He retaliated by ignoring him, which infuriated Khan and still does to this day. His saying that Khan should have fought Brook is just another way of rubbing salt into Khan's wounds. Anyone who actually thinks Khan would have had a chance against Mayweather needs their head examined.

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