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  • #41
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    I don't think the UK market is as petty as the US market is with things like this. I could easily see Sky wanting this fight & it being good for Hearn & Sky long term anyway in refocusing Khan's UK fans with the intention of Brook vs Khan at a future date at 147 or 154.

    But again regardless I can't see someone not jumping on this fight & PPVing it in the UK. It'd be silly not to as its a guy who at least arguably at one time had a good UK following vs arguably the new #1 draw in the sport. Idk if there is tons of money to be made here, but there is for sure money to be made.
    I just don't think Canelo's name is as big in the UK as people want to think it is. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, throughout Mexico and in CA/NV/TX, is probably the #1 draw in the sport. In Chicago? New York? I sincerely doubt it; Cotto is still bigger, with Danny Garcia and Deontay Wilder likely having bigger followings in New York.

    With Brook-Khan at least being put off for a year, I don't see why Sky Sports would bother with airing the fight, especially if there's a real chance that it ends bad for Khan.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
      How about a little fight with Fury and Klitschko not very long ago. There have been plenty if you go back over the last 5 years. Khan has been on Sky and Sky Box office plenty of times including Kotelnik, Barrera, Prescott. Maidana was also on Sky. He fell out with them over the McCloskey fight but since then the Alexander, Garcia, and Diaz fight were on Sky. So yeah plenty.

      Alvarez was not the draw he is today before Mayweather, he has become much bigger since Floyd and Cotto, two bonafide stars.

      The fact that you claim to know whether Sky Sports bid for Canelo v Mayweather is more laughable. There is no way to know unless you know a studio head.

      I guarantee that both will go in for this fight though, and I will be massively surprised if Sky don't pick it up as a ppv. There is a chance that Warren might get it for Boxnation I would say.

      When you have been proved wrong I will look for you.
      Klitschko-Fury, being in Germany, aired at a reasonable time in the UK, while also involving a top British fighter who fights in Britain.

      And nice try on that slight of hand; every Sky Sports card that you mentioned was promoted by Frank Warren, before the launch of BoxNation, where the rest of Khan's fights have aired since. Glad I checked that info out, lol.

      Glad to take wagers if you want.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
        Where are you getting your numbers from? Where are you even from, because you don't really know what you are talking about. How does 400k ppv buys equate to $4 million? First of all the currency in this country is pound sterling, and 400k ppv buys @ £15 (£20 on the night) is a minimum take of £6 million, out of which 40% normally goes to the network (Sky).
        400k PPV buys @15gbp equals 6m-gbp. @$1.45 per gbp, you're looking at $8.7m. Assuming the TV distributors take about the same in the UK as they do in the US and you're looking at a touch more that $4m coming off of the Joshua PPV.

        Not that complicated.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          I just don't think Canelo's name is as big in the UK as people want to think it is. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, throughout Mexico and in CA/NV/TX, is probably the #1 draw in the sport. In Chicago? New York? I sincerely doubt it; Cotto is still bigger, with Danny Garcia and Deontay Wilder likely having bigger followings in New York.
          Canelo is the biggest name in the sport by the time this fight takes place. Idk that it matters if he's 2nd best in certain regions (although I would tend to argue against that, but not very passionately as I don't think its THAT important of a point). I think Canelo is at a point where he could fight in a hockey arena in Saskatchewan & do solid gate numbers.

          And I'd take the Pepsi challenge with NYers knowing Canelo more often than they know Cotto, Garcia & Wilder & outselling them at the gate & I suspect worst case I'm right in 2 outta the 3 with Cotto maybe eeking by on a close decision with his NY popularity. Garcia can fight at Barclay's 25 times in a row & Canelo is still gonna be more known & do better gate numbers than him.

          With Brook-Khan at least being put off for a year, I don't see why Sky Sports would bother with airing the fight, especially if there's a real chance that it ends bad for Khan.
          If Canelo vs Khan draws as good of numbers as some people seem to think it don't matter if Khan gets KTFO in 3 rounds. Brook & Hearn would be wise to look him up afterwards when that opportunity represented itself.

          And please boxing jesus can we quit acting like Khan is gonna die or some such **** in this fight. He'll fight again win, lose, draw or even if he gets KTFO. Everyone who gets in the ring is risking their life, this fight will be no different, but sadly mismatches happen all the time in boxing and only a extremely small percentage of those fights result in a serious injury so Khan's increased risk with this fight being a mismatch in many fans opinion, myself included, is probably nominal.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            400k PPV buys @15gbp equals 6m-gbp. @$1.45 per gbp, you're looking at $8.7m. Assuming the TV distributors take about the same in the UK as they do in the US and you're looking at a touch more that $4m coming off of the Joshua PPV.

            Not that complicated.
            Dude you need a mathematics lesson. 60% of 8.7 is not 4, I love it when a foreigner tries to tell a Brit how popular a fighter in the UK is and how ppv works here. The networks here do not take as much as HBO and Showtime.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
              Klitschko-Fury, being in Germany, aired at a reasonable time in the UK, while also involving a top British fighter who fights in Britain.

              And nice try on that slight of hand; every Sky Sports card that you mentioned was promoted by Frank Warren, before the launch of BoxNation, where the rest of Khan's fights have aired since. Glad I checked that info out, lol.

              Glad to take wagers if you want.
              Yes but you said that every fight that has been on ppv has been Matchroom, I wanted to prove to you that wasn't the case and give you the most recent example. There are more...but I can't be bothered debating with someone who clearly knows nothing about the UK scene.

              Are you glad are you? I am glad you didn't waste your time, because it wasn't you absolute tit. Boxnation was launched in September 2011, since then Khan fought Peterson, Garcia, Molina, Alexander all on Sky. In fact he has had more fights on Sky since Boxnation has started 4-3.

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              • #47
                It's so obvious why Khan took this fight, dude won't mind get ko'd for that much even I wouldn't!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                  Dude you need a mathematics lesson. 60% of 8.7 is not 4, I love it when a foreigner tries to tell a Brit how popular a fighter in the UK is and how ppv works here. The networks here do not take as much as HBO and Showtime.
                  8.7 times 60% in 5.2; if Sky Sports in the only entity that took anything out of the pot, cong****, it's $5m instead of $4m. I doubt that that's the case but, as a non-Brit, I have nothing else to go on.

                  Also, it's just as hilarious to hear a Brit talk about something that they don't know either; HBO/Showtime, on the standard PPV, only end up taking 7% on the PPV plus the $10hd fee. The cable distributors (Comcast, TimeWarner, DirectTV, Dish, AT&TUvere, etc) walk away with ~40% of the PPV.

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