Remember when Ward/Murdoch got clowned on?

[kilojay505]

You're right it's no contest because Murdoch and Ward were both moving up in weight together and Murdoch was never exposed in a brutal 30 second stoppage by a journeyman.

LOL that $hut him up
wheres the War Kovalev?

[ИATAS]

Pac vs Bradley shouldn't be on the list though since they are two of the best welterweights fighting each other. It's boring in the sense it's a rubber match but the winner is without question the #1 ranked fighter at 147 so anytime boxing can do that it's a good thing.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

You're right it's no contest because Murdoch and Ward were both moving up in weight together and Murdoch was never exposed in a brutal 30 second stoppage by a journeyman.

spin however you need so your feelings dont get hurt but we all know its not the same.

[Scipio2009]

Pac vs Bradley shouldn't be on the list though since they are two of the best welterweights fighting each other. It's boring in the sense it's a rubber match but the winner is without question the #1 ranked fighter at 147 so anytime boxing can do that it's a good thing.

Why would the Bradley-Pacquiao III winner (with Pacquiao coming into the fight after a terrible Mayweather performance and being 3-3 in his last 6 fights) be the #1 ranked fighter at 147 when the Thurman/Porter vs Brook winner, with the possibility of closing out the year against Danny Garcia, would have as strong a claim to that status as anyone else (at most 1 defeat on the resume, two legitamate world titles around their waist, the likelihood of having the old WBC/WBA/IBF unification done, young and in the prime of their career)?

A 34-1-1 Tim Bradley(with no world title, as the belt is likely to be vacated to settle the Ali mandatory defense), or a 29-1-1 Porter/29-0 Thurman/38-0 Brook/34-0 Garcia (who would be standing with three of the four world title belts, at no older than 30 years of age)?

I'd hold off on the declaration.

[BrometheusBob.]

You're right. Not until they pull out of those fights can they be compared to Ward.

For all our sakes I hope they do pull out of these fights.

[BrometheusBob.]

Why would the Bradley-Pacquiao III winner (with Pacquiao coming into the fight after a terrible Mayweather performance and being 3-3 in his last 6 fights) be the #1 ranked fighter at 147 when the Thurman/Porter vs Brook winner, with the possibility of closing out the year against Danny Garcia, would have as strong a claim to that status as anyone else (at most 1 defeat on the resume, two legitamate world titles around their waist, the likelihood of having the old WBC/WBA/IBF unification done, young and in the prime of their career)?

A 34-1-1 Tim Bradley(with no world title, as the belt is likely to be vacated to settle the Ali mandatory defense), or a 29-1-1 Porter/29-0 Thurman/38-0 Brook/34-0 Garcia (who would be standing with three of the four world title belts, at no older than 30 years of age)?

I'd hold off on the declaration.

I'd say Manny/Bradley winner easily decides the #1 in the division at that point in time. Of course if the entirely hypothetical matchups you've constructed were to take place afterwards, a new #1 could be potentially be decided. (Besides Thurman/Porter fight that is - we have no idea whether that winner will actually fight Brook or DSG as they ought to)

That being said, it's a fight we've seen twice already and Pac is on his way out, so we'd be much better off to see Bradley fight Brook or DSG and Pac/Crawford.

[ИATAS]

Why would the Bradley-Pacquiao III winner (with Pacquiao coming into the fight after a terrible Mayweather performance and being 3-3 in his last 6 fights) be the #1 ranked fighter at 147 when the Thurman/Porter vs Brook winner, with the possibility of closing out the year against Danny Garcia, would have as strong a claim to that status as anyone else (at most 1 defeat on the resume, two legitamate world titles around their waist, the likelihood of having the old WBC/WBA/IBF unification done, young and in the prime of their career)?

A 34-1-1 Tim Bradley(with no world title, as the belt is likely to be vacated to settle the Ali mandatory defense), or a 29-1-1 Porter/29-0 Thurman/38-0 Brook/34-0 Garcia (who would be standing with three of the four world title belts, at no older than 30 years of age)?

I'd hold off on the declaration.

It's extremely simple.

If Bradley wins: beating Pacquiao is far better than anything on Thurman/Porter/Brook/Garcia's resume at 147.

If Pacquiao wins: beating Bradley is far better than anything on Thurman/Porter/Brook/Garcia's resume at 147.

Without question the winner of Pacquiao/Bradley is the #1 welterweight.

What you're talking about, "Thurman/Porter vs Brook winner, with the possibility of closing out the year against Danny Garcia" obviously hasn't happened. If the Thurman/Porter winner fights Brook, then sure, the winner of that could have a strong case of being #1, but that obviously wouldn't happen before Bradley/Pacquiao now would it? Thus Bradley/Pac being #1.

[Larry the boss]

Blasphemy....Ward is a coward

[soul_survivor]

But what are these other P4P names doing?
-GGG/Wade
-Canelo/Khan
-Kov/Pascal 2
-Crawford/Lundy
-Rigo/Drian Francisco followed up with a steaming pile of Rigo/James ****ens
-Pac/Bradley III
-Lomachenko/Koasicha

Phuck outta here with all that garbage. These fools need to move over and recognize the true #1 P4P fighter, Andre Ward.

Who has Ward faced better than Bradley, Khan and Pascal in recent years?

[-Kev-]

At the very least Kovalev vs Pascal 2 was a #1 LHW vs a #4 LHW, and Pac vs Bradley is #2 vs #4 WW. The rest suck pretty bad.