Checkmate - Winner Al Haymon

[HAY-B]

I was really thinking about the whole Canelo-Khan fight. Not the fight but the business side of things as it relates to GBP suit against Al Haymon.
I posted this in a thread a few minutes ago but I feel the topic should really be its own thread.
When you look at the business end of this fight, Al Haymon just used Khan as a pawn to negotiate a fight with GBP. Where GBP, TR and the likes claim Haymon is blocking fights and trying to squeeze them out of business, GBP just negotiated a fight with one of Al Haymon's fighters and are boasting in the media that the fight was easy to make as they obviously feel the deal was and is in their best interest. According to Oscar himself, "We did not speak with Al Haymon ".
Since the announcement of this fight, Khan has come out and said he is still with Al Haymon and that Al Haymon directed, advised, consulted, and told Khan, his father and lawyers exactly what to say and do. Khan and team have stated that whatever GBP presented to them, they took it straight to AL Haymon for direction and they acted according to Al's instructions. Khan and team were essentially the middle men or pawns, though GBP did not know that.
In a nutshell, this makes it look to me as if GBP is the problem when it comes to doing business with Al and will be seen as such in court. Because the minute they thought they were pecking Khan from Al they pounced. Because of this I would think it makes it difficult for GBP to continue their suit against Haymon when they just took it upon their selves to disprove their argument.
For that reason I feel Oscar just played chess with Al Haymon and lost and is yet to realize he was playing and that he lost.

Checkmate Al Haymon.

I would like to hear the NSB posters and NSB poster-lawyers thoughts on this. I won't be responding. I'll just be reading your responses.

[PKing]

This hurts GBP's lawsuit just like MayPac hurts TR's lawsuit.

Plain and simple.

[Scipio2009]

Golden Boy's lawsuit never had any teeth to begin with

I was really thinking about the whole Canelo-Khan fight. Not the fight but the business side of things as it relates to GBP suit against Al Haymon.
I posted this in a thread a few minutes ago but I feel the topic should really be its own thread.
When you look at the business end of this fight, Al Haymon just used Khan as a pawn to negotiate a fight with GBP. Where GBP, TR and the likes claim Haymon is blocking fights and trying to squeeze them out of business, GBP just negotiated a fight with one of Al Haymon's fighters and are boasting in the media that the fight was easy to make as they obviously feel the deal was and is in their best interest. According to Oscar himself, "We did not speak with Al Haymon ".
Since the announcement of this fight, Khan has come out and said he is still with Al Haymon and that Al Haymon directed, advised, consulted, and told Khan, his father and lawyers exactly what to say and do. Khan and team have stated that whatever GBP presented to them, they took it straight to AL Haymon for direction and they acted according to Al's instructions. Khan and team were essentially the middle men or pawns, though GBP did not know that.
In a nutshell, this makes it look to me as if GBP is the problem when it comes to doing business with Al and will be seen as such in court. Because the minute they thought they were pecking Khan from Al they pounced. Because of this I would think it makes it difficult for GBP to continue their suit against Haymon when they just took it upon their selves to disprove their argument.
For that reason I feel Oscar just played chess with Al Haymon and lost and is yet to realize he was playing and that he lost.

Checkmate Al Haymon.

I would like to hear the NSB posters and NSB poster-lawyers thoughts on this. I won't be responding. I'll just be reading your responses.

All this event has done is kill Top Rank's edited lawsuit (while opening them up for more issues in Mikey Garcia's slow-moving suit against the company).

With Golden Boy on the verge of having to pay out a massive settlement to All Star Boxing (whom Golden Boy took Alvarez from, as he was on the cusp of starting to break out in the US), Oscar needed a big event where his company were the ones actually getting paid.

Things are gonna get real interesting over the next 6 months.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Wade is doing the mandatory under Haymon, too, right? Did they agree on who would televise that fight? HBO? PBC?

[Luilun]

I was really thinking about the whole Canelo-Khan fight. Not the fight but the business side of things as it relates to GBP suit against Al Haymon.
I posted this in a thread a few minutes ago but I feel the topic should really be its own thread.
When you look at the business end of this fight, Al Haymon just used Khan as a pawn to negotiate a fight with GBP. Where GBP, TR and the likes claim Haymon is blocking fights and trying to squeeze them out of business, GBP just negotiated a fight with one of Al Haymon's fighters and are boasting in the media that the fight was easy to make as they obviously feel the deal was and is in their best interest. According to Oscar himself, "We did not speak with Al Haymon ".
Since the announcement of this fight, Khan has come out and said he is still with Al Haymon and that Al Haymon directed, advised, consulted, and told Khan, his father and lawyers exactly what to say and do. Khan and team have stated that whatever GBP presented to them, they took it straight to AL Haymon for direction and they acted according to Al's instructions. Khan and team were essentially the middle men or pawns, though GBP did not know that.
In a nutshell, this makes it look to me as if GBP is the problem when it comes to doing business with Al and will be seen as such in court. Because the minute they thought they were pecking Khan from Al they pounced. Because of this I would think it makes it difficult for GBP to continue their suit against Haymon when they just took it upon their selves to disprove their argument.
For that reason I feel Oscar just played chess with Al Haymon and lost and is yet to realize he was playing and that he lost.

Checkmate Al Haymon.

I would like to hear the NSB posters and NSB poster-lawyers thoughts on this. I won't be responding. I'll just be reading your responses.

Haymon is just tossing Khan under the bus

[HAY-B]

Wade is doing the mandatory under Haymon, too, right? Did they agree on who would televise that fight? HBO? PBC?

I know I said I would not reply but this is kind of off the topic so I feel its fair game.
I have not heard anything and I would expect HBO to televise it unless it goes to purse bid an a Haymon affiliated Promoter wins it. GGG is the champ, also he's the champ with an exclusive TV deal, and Wade is his mandatory so I would expect HBO to allow the Haymon fighter if they care about GGG not being / being stripped.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I know I said I would not reply but this is kind of off the topic so I feel its fair game.
I have not heard anything and I would expect HBO to televise it unless it goes to purse bid an a Haymon affiliated Promoter wins it. GGG is the champ, also he's the champ with an exclusive TV deal, and Wade is his mandatory so I would expect HBO to allow the Haymon fighter if they care about GGG not being / being stripped.

Thanks for replying. For the sake of our sport, I hope all these en****** work together and give us great fights.

[killakali]

I know I said I would not reply but this is kind of off the topic so I feel its fair game.
I have not heard anything and I would expect HBO to televise it unless it goes to purse bid an a Haymon affiliated Promoter wins it. GGG is the champ, also he's the champ with an exclusive TV deal, and Wade is his mandatory so I would expect HBO to allow the Haymon fighter if they care about GGG not being / being stripped.

it is a purse bid fight like lara-vanes, loma-russell, martin-glazkov, barthelemy-shafikov. doesn't really count because it was ordered by a sanctioning body. pac mayweather counts because they directed negotiated a voluntary fight that they did not have to make. that and the canelo khan are the only comparable fights but haymons involvment on this canelo fight is very questionable. khan has the loosest contract with haymon according to many. i wonder how this makes guys like lara, charlos etc feel that khan could put his foot down to make this fight and they likely can't??

[JStill Unbiased]

This is news to me, I was under the impression that Khan left Haymon to be a contracted GBP Fighter. Thanks for enlightening me

[djt117]

Difference is Khan doesn't have the "we own your a$$" contract because when he came to Al he was already a multi-millionaire and was in a position to negotiate. That's why he was free to pursue the Pacquiao fight when no one else from the Haymon stable was.

Unfortunately, that's also probably the reason he missed out on the Floyd fight, particularly the 2nd time. Haymon wasn't going to give that payday to someone he didn't fully control.