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  • Originally posted by New England View Post
    floyd never fought a fighter close to the duran who beat ray leonard. let's not forget how hes struggled with jose luis castillo, who does nothing better than duran.

    he woulldn't even fight druan. wouldn't fight the tommy hearns that ray leonard beat, either. he wouldn't even fight these guys. he'd retire, find another division, etc. health comes first.
    styles makes fights....Duran is better than JLC.....Just like Mayweather is better than Esteban De Jesus who was Durans rival and went 2-1 vs him in their prime


    Neither guy is invincible....Durans educated pressure and roughness would give Mayweather issues , just like Mayweathers footwork, counters, would trouble Duran

    at 135 would have been great and thats where Durans has his best shot, he was a little more crude at 135....at 147 and up I favor Mayweather clearly because he was the more consistent fighter, always came in shape, and was even more elusive at the higher weights, physically stronger and would outbox Duran....much like Kirkland Laing did to a 31 year old Duran.....Robbie Sims anyone?

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    • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      styles makes fights....Duran is better than JLC.....Just like Mayweather is better than Esteban De Jesus who was Durans rival and went 2-1 vs him in their prime


      Neither guy is invincible....Durans educated pressure and roughness would give Mayweather issues , just like Mayweathers footwork, counters, would trouble Duran

      at 135 would have been great and thats where Durans has his best shot, he was a little more crude at 135....at 147 and up I favor Mayweather clearly because he was the more consistent fighter, always came in shape, and was even more elusive at the higher weights, physically stronger and would outbox Duran....much like Kirkland Laing did to a 31 year old Duran.....Robbie Sims anyone?

      you don't say "he wouldn't be in shape" in a fantasy fight . he wasn't in shape, fighting for hs title, or prepared in his firs tfight with de jesus. de jesus was a very good fighter, himself, and arguably better than any LW mayweather fought [though i'd pick mayweather to beat him.] they fought rematches, and you're welcome to talk about what they looked like when duran was in shape.

      the duran that beat leonard beats mayweather.


      duran beat better fighters at 135. better fighters at 147, too. heck, he had significant wins all the way up to 160.

      the signs point to duran beating mayweather. the resume, ability, eye test, talents, all favor duran. he had the chin, power, and craft to get inside on ray leonard, a superior fighter to floyd mayweather, and beat him up. sure, he'd lose if he didn't train, but that's not saying much, is it ?

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      • Floyd wins, simply too cryptic.

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        • Originally posted by New England View Post
          you don't say "he wouldn't be in shape" in a fantasy fight . he wasn't in shape, fighting for hs title, or prepared in his firs tfight with de jesus. de jesus was a very good fighter, himself, and arguably better than any LW mayweather fought [though i'd pick mayweather to beat him.] they fought rematches, and you're welcome to talk about what they looked like when duran was in shape.

          the duran that beat leonard beats mayweather.


          duran beat better fighters at 135. better fighters at 147, too. heck, he had significant wins all the way up to 160.

          the signs point to duran beating mayweather. the resume, ability, eye test, talents, all favor duran. he had the chin, power, and craft to get inside on ray leonard, a superior fighter to floyd mayweather, and beat him up. sure, he'd lose if he didn't train, but that's not saying much, is it ?
          what about the duran that lost to Dejesus and Kirkland laing?

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          • Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
            The guy that was rated the 2nd best fighter in the world (only behind Mayweather) doesn't count? GTFOH
            You know pretty well Mayweather did not win that fight. It's Mayweather Castillo again.

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            • Originally posted by New England View Post
              you don't say "he wouldn't be in shape" in a fantasy fight . he wasn't in shape, fighting for hs title, or prepared in his firs tfight with de jesus. de jesus was a very good fighter, himself, and arguably better than any LW mayweather fought [though i'd pick mayweather to beat him.] they fought rematches, and you're welcome to talk about what they looked like when duran was in shape.

              the duran that beat leonard beats mayweather.


              duran beat better fighters at 135. better fighters at 147, too. heck, he had significant wins all the way up to 160.

              the signs point to duran beating mayweather. the resume, ability, eye test, talents, all favor duran. he had the chin, power, and craft to get inside on ray leonard, a superior fighter to floyd mayweather, and beat him up. sure, he'd lose if he didn't train, but that's not saying much, is it ?

              Leonard is a superior welterweight, because he was a natural welterweight, Mayweather started at 130 and below...most forget....either way, thats up for debate. Leonards own brother feels he couldnt beat Mayweather. Everyone has an opinion. Saw it in an interview. There are things Leonard has over Floyd and their are things he does better than Leonard. 2 totally different fighters.

              Duran's resume is not better than Mayweathers...Mayweather has beaten more champions, hall of famers, more title defenses, lineal titles, etc....Duran may have fought in a deeper era in some peoples opinion but he also lost to lesser fighters


              Leonard fought the wrong type fight and anyone with half a brain knows he let Duran get in his head so he fought toe to toe...Leonard admitted this much

              Look at how Duran looked when Leonard used his legs, also Benitez, Laing, Buchanan ,etc. He has trouble with elusiveness

              what makes Mayweather great are intangibles and things you cant measure. Not things like speed, power, etc.


              Mayweather is dumb enough to fight the wrong fight because of his ego, proof is in the pudding. He'll talk trash all day but still go in the ring and use the right game plan

              those mind games wont work on Mayweather who always has the psychological edge
              Last edited by therealpugilist; 02-01-2016, 09:49 AM.

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              • Originally posted by New England View Post
                you don't say "he wouldn't be in shape" in a fantasy fight . he wasn't in shape, fighting for hs title, or prepared in his firs tfight with de jesus. de jesus was a very good fighter, himself, and arguably better than any LW mayweather fought [though i'd pick mayweather to beat him.] they fought rematches, and you're welcome to talk about what they looked like when duran was in shape.

                the duran that beat leonard beats mayweather.


                duran beat better fighters at 135. better fighters at 147, too. heck, he had significant wins all the way up to 160.

                the signs point to duran beating mayweather. the resume, ability, eye test, talents, all favor duran. he had the chin, power, and craft to get inside on ray leonard, a superior fighter to floyd mayweather, and beat him up. sure, he'd lose if he didn't train, but that's not saying much, is it ?
                are you slow? I just said Duran didnt always come in top condition, nothing more or less...get a grip

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  what about the duran that lost to Dejesus and Kirkland laing?

                  have you even seen these fights, for starters, or are you jus repeating stuff you hear on the internet ?

                  de jesus 1 was over the LW limit and not for a title. it's well established that duran was unprepared. he got caught early and never worked his way back into the fight. they fought again twice, when duran was prepared, and you can watch those ifghts if you'd like.

                  de jesus is also a hall of famer, and better than any 135 lber that mayweather fought. he could move, punch, and he was tough. very underrated fighter. most people who bring him up don't even know who he is


                  against kirkland laing, duran was jiggling all over the ring. papers were writing him off after that fight.


                  TLR

                  he was out of shape against de jesus in the first fight, and hardly trained for the laing fight.

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                  • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    Leonard is a superior welterweight, because he was a natural welterweight, Mayweather started at 130 and below...most forget....either way, thats up for debate. Leonards own brother feels he couldnt beat Mayweather. Everyone has an opinion. Saw it in an interview. There are things Leonard has over Floyd and their are things he does better than Leonard. 2 totally different fighters.

                    Duran's resume is not better than Mayweathers...Mayweather has beaten more champions, hall of famers, more title defenses, lineal titles, etc....Duran may have fought in a deeper era in some peoples opinion but he also lost to lesser fighters


                    Leonard fought the wrong type fight and anyone with half a brain knows he let Duran get in his head so he fought toe to toe...Leonard admitted this much

                    Look at how Duran looked when Leonard used his legs, also Benitez, Laing, Buchanan ,etc. He has trouble with elusiveness

                    what makes Mayweather great are intangibles and things you cant measure. Not things like speed, power, etc.


                    Mayweather is dumb enough to fight the wrong fight because of his ego, proof is in the pudding. He'll talk trash all day but still go in the ring and use the right game plan

                    those mind games wont work on Mayweather who always has the psychological edge


                    you really want me to take you seriously when you think floyd mayweather has a better resume than roberto duran?

                    even the staunchest flowmos aren't going to argue this and act like they know boxing.


                    NO credible expert on boxing history thinks floyd mayweather has a better resume than duran.

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                    • Originally posted by New England View Post
                      have you even seen these fights, for starters, or are you jus repeating stuff you hear on the internet ?

                      de jesus 1 was over the LW limit and not for a title. it's well established that duran was unprepared. he got caught early and never worked his way back into the fight. they fought again twice, when duran was prepared, and you can watch those ifghts if you'd like.

                      de jesus is also a hall of famer, and better than any 135 lber that mayweather fought. he could move, punch, and he was tough. very underrated fighter. most people who bring him up don't even know who he is


                      against kirkland laing, duran was jiggling all over the ring. papers were writing him off after that fight.


                      TLR

                      he was out of shape against de jesus in the first fight, and hardly trained for the laing fight.
                      SO Floyd would beat the duran that lost to Dejesus and laing, correct?

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