Comments Thread For: Khan's Father: March Return Next, Then Garcia or Brook Shot

[thack]

Because when your talking about a Resume your talking about the quality of a fighters opponents over his career.

So in this scenario what are Khans 10 best wins? and what are Brooks 10 best wins?. How do their resumes compare? and who has consistently over the course of their career competed at a higher level?

As they say "One swallow does not make a Summer".

Makes perfect sense.

You need to get yourself in to the present , this is what's being discussed.
As they say "you're only as good as your last fight" and lets be honest for all Khan's bragging , calling Algieri "a last resort, a showcase fight ....he was crap.

[wlliam]

Would'nt that criteria also apply to the opponents when the fights took place.
About 54% of people on this forum picked Devon Alexander to smoke Khan on the online poll prior to the fight, close to 50% Picked Collazo and on another Forum a staggering 62% picked Collazo so those fights were perceived as dangerous by fans at the time what we have is people engaging in revisionism because they dislike certain fighters.

Yes the criteria appliesto the opponents ESPECIALLY when the fights took place. Whether 54% or 62%pickedso and so is beside the point...bcuz of Collazo and Alexanders divisional standing AT THE TIME Khan beat em, it doesnt push him to the top of the WW div. Had Devon gotten past Porter i wouldve rightfully rated zkhans win over him higher than i do now...Collazo KOd an Ortiz KOd in his 2 previous bouts so im not gonna rate that win more than it needs to be..Im not gonna lie, Khan over Collazo was a solid win but Collazos KO over Ortiz doesnt put him atop WW..thereforr Khan over Collazo doesnt put him atop the WW div. That was in 2014, Collazo lost his title in 2007 btw.

What im getn at is Khan wont become the best by facing guys who are NOT the best. And i think his divisiinal standing is ridiculously high for his opposition level. And as critical as i am of Brooks comp level, matter of fact i think its trash for someone rated so highly, hes beaten a very solid top10 guy in Porter that secured his standing. But at some point hes gotta lpse that rating if he doesnt step it up.

[wlliam]

Indeed

Khan should fight a bum like Carson Jones instead, the fella Brook went life and death with

Imagine hoq high that would be rated..Khan would shoot straight up the standings...maybe even rate him WBC#1 at 154! Lol

[wlliam]

I've followed Kell Brook since he was fighting in six rounders in Leisure centres in Sheffield and Rotherham and Ice Rinks in Nottingham.

Your above explanation is nonsense especially after nearly 12 years as a professional.

Nigel Benns entire career lasted 10 Years , Nasemm Hameds career 10 years,
Barry Mcguigan 8 Years. Ricky Hatton from the time of his debut upto his fight with Manny Pacquaio 12 years.

Brook has a joke of a promoter who has done nothing to promote Kell Brook
except Piggy back on khans name. Its time for Kell Brook to get rid of this Clown Eddie Hearns who has not been delivering the big fights he has been taking Kell Brook for a ride.

If the big fights do not happen for Kell Brook this year they are never going to happen. Its time for Kell Brook to sign with Haymon or Top Rank.

Otherwise we will back here next year, with Eddie Hearn talking about a big Fight at Wembley with Khan....and rinse and repeat all the following years.

Agreed. Brook wont get t;e big fights with Hearn. Hearn is perfectly fine with matching Brook weak in "World Championship Fights" and collecting that gate...thats in HIS best interests. Brook losing to Thurman, Garcia, Bradley, etc, is Hearn losing his "World Championship Fights"..Brooks gotta split if he really wants to be the best or compete against the other divisions best.

[Invictas]

You need to get yourself in to the present , this is what's being discussed.
As they say "you're only as good as your last fight" and lets be honest for all Khan's bragging , calling Algieri "a last resort, a showcase fight ....he was crap.

One could also say your only as good as your last opponent

Algieri is miles better then Frankie Gavin, .....!

[thack]

One could also say your only as good as your last opponent

Algieri is miles better then Frankie Gavin, .....!

That really means rather than Khan calling out Mayweather, Manny or even being in a position to fight Brook or Garcia he should then rematch Algieri because as you say 'your only as good as your last opponent' and lots of people had Algieri winning or at least a draw (I had Khan by one point).
I agree I really think this is Khan's level and seeing as Amir is so hot on rematches (aside from Prescott of course) they should order this pick em fight immediately.
I also agree with you that Algieri is better than F.

[FrankieBruno]

It's not that Frankie it's just not realising how much the losses to Tim and Porter had taken out of Devon.

no you ****** berk

devon never had the tools to beat khan, even a spastic like you should be able to see this

didnt you also say collazo would beat khan?

instead of predicting fights with ur hate for a boxer, pick with ur pea sized brain next time

[FrankieBruno]

I'll believe it when I see it. This dude is either the dumbest businessman in boxing or he has some really ****** people in his ear

yet he is one of the wealthiest active boxers

[Sugar Adam Ali]

So basically khan will fight someone like bundu in March

[Invictas]

That really means rather than Khan calling out Mayweather, Manny or even being in a position to fight Brook or Garcia he should then rematch Algieri because as you say 'your only as good as your last opponent' and lots of people had Algieri winning or at least a draw (I had Khan by one point).
I agree I really think this is Khan's level and seeing as Amir is so hot on rematches (aside from Prescott of course) they should order this pick em fight immediately.
I also agree with you that Algieri is better than F.

Since you keep saying lets be honest..... Then lets be honest the biggest Mugs on this thread are you and me. We just spent a few hours going back and forth discussing careers of guys, and its not like they even give a Jack as to what we think...Lol.

In the Words of the Legendary Bruce Lee.

"If you Love Life then do not waste time focusing on or discussing the goals of others. Instead focus on your own goals in life and use every precious minute in working towards achieving those goals."


Anyways take care Thack its been interesting. Only Time will tell how things pan out for both these guys... I still cant believe the amount time we've spent on this.

In the words of Lord Chesterfield..." Take care of your minutes for the hours will take care of themselves."