Why so much hate for GGG?

[about.thousands]

His fans make me want to see him lose. I think he's a top 10 p4p fighter but his fans are worse than Pacquiao fans. Most are Pacquiao fans who started jumping ship after the Marquez KO and abandoned ship after May 2nd. I don't hate GGG. He seems like a cool person. And for the most part I don't want to see him lose but I do want to see him fight a A-level fighter. I was always a bigger fan of Floyd than I was of Pacquiao but I've always respected Pac because he won his respect in the ring.

I also think K2 is doing a horrible job of promoting him. If he were with Top Rank he'd be a star and unified champion by now. Top Rank didn't wait around for Floyd in order to make Pacquiao a star. He became a star by beating legit challengers. K2 is happy with GGG fighting cans while waiting for Cotto and now Canelo. And I don't want to hear the ducking excuse. Every single time GGG had Cotto and Canelo in position to force a fight GGG agreed to delay the fight. K2 is trying to manufacture a star but GGG is an exciting enough fighter to become a star inside the ring. Not traveling around Britain doing photo ops.

[Larry the boss]

People will always hate on greatness

[CaneloMaidana]

Yeah, that's true.

He's a 34 year old coward. But hey so are you.

[Beercules]

He's a 34 year old coward. But hey so are you.

Preach my brother, preach.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Every forum website seems to be split on GGG fans and hater. I'm neither but I don't get why people seems to want him to fail or not give him any credit for what he is which is the first or second best MW boxer. It's not like he's a big ass or showboat a lot. He seems respectful and always trying to give the fans a good show.

People always bring up Ward, forget ward already. He might ducked him and if he did, so what. Its in the past and people can't seem to move past it. He fights two weight division above him now so I don't get why people still have a problem with it. Its like asking why Mayweather ducked GGG or Ward ducking Vlad.

People keep saying he ducked Lara. You guys honestly want to see that fight? Me personally I don't want to see GGG fight anyone smaller then him cause IMO smaller guys have no chance against him. He might outbox him and stay alive for 12 rounds but I doubt that because he's real good at cutting off the ring. Look what's he doing to guys 20-30 lbs heavier then Lara, imagine when he touch Lara once.

He's only gonna get some credit from some of you guys if he beat Canelo, but he doesn't want to fight him yet. And when hes trying to make that fight you guys side with Canelo because GGG wants to fight at the weight limit Canelo have the belt at really? You guys can't complain about GGG trying to make a catchweight with Ward at 164 and then complain about GGG doesn't want to go down to 155.

People say he should move to 168. Is there better fighters at 168 then 160 because I'm thinking it's not much better opponents besides Ward who's fighting at 175 now.

Well, look at the big picture.

GGG has his lovers and his haters.

More importantly, every boxing fan knows who he is.

Hopefully he can cross over and get even bigger.

The fact that people are talking about him a lot on this forum as well as many others is a testament to his popularity whether it be love or hate.

I'm a fan and I'm glad to see he has haters. That just means he's getting somewhere. So rejoice. Good things are ahead for GGG.

[RespekonMyName]

Who has he beat to gain such status?

[BennyST]

They're like a religion.

Kill all non-believers. They don't like the fact that he has critics. I mean all fighters have critics. He's a top 10 P4P fighter and many people question how is that possible. We know how Mayweather and Pacquiao got there, by first beating Corrales and Barrera, two top 5 P4P fighters of the time. But how did GGG get there? He was just placed there based on hype and his fans.

I think it's also obviously the years of hype this guy has gotten, being right up high on the P4P list, never-ending praise, talk of weight jumping without following up on those promises etc.

But, the guy has the worst double standard fans in all of boxing currently. I love watching him fight, but his most ardent fans are really ****ing ****ish frankly. He's been a champion for six years with 14 or 15 title defenses, a pro for ten years and he's only fought three champions all up in that entire ten year period. That is beyond hilarious considering how much his fans slag on other boxers. Only one of those champions was a current champion too.

Floyd being the obvious choice they rag on most as some kind of coward that never fought anyone, avoided all challenges and has a **** resume full of bums. After ten years, they both had the same amount of fights, but Floyd had already fought in five divisions, was lineal champion in two divisions and had already beaten twelve champions, including five or six current champions including P4P level guys. That's nine more champions beaten over five divisions in the same amount of fights and the same amount of time...and his fans wonder why boxing fans tell them to shut the **** up for once when they start spouting their coward, no challenges, nonsense around the place.

Three champions out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Kassim Ouma
Daniel Geale
David Lemieux

Compared to twelve champions, five of them current (arguably three HOFers), two lineal titles over five divisions also out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Jose Luis Castillo
Diego Corrales
Gregorio Vargas
Jesus Chavez
Demarcus Corley
Zac Judah
Sharmba Mitchell
Carlos Baldomir
Arturo Gatti

The bolded were the current champs when they fought.

[Scipio2009]

Golovkin's been a professional fighter for a decade, and is still an unknown quantity

Every forum website seems to be split on GGG fans and hater. I'm neither but I don't get why people seems to want him to fail or not give him any credit for what he is which is the first or second best MW boxer. It's not like he's a big ass or showboat a lot. He seems respectful and always trying to give the fans a good show.

People always bring up Ward, forget ward already. He might ducked him and if he did, so what. Its in the past and people can't seem to move past it. He fights two weight division above him now so I don't get why people still have a problem with it. Its like asking why Mayweather ducked GGG or Ward ducking Vlad.

People keep saying he ducked Lara. You guys honestly want to see that fight? Me personally I don't want to see GGG fight anyone smaller then him cause IMO smaller guys have no chance against him. He might outbox him and stay alive for 12 rounds but I doubt that because he's real good at cutting off the ring. Look what's he doing to guys 20-30 lbs heavier then Lara, imagine when he touch Lara once.

He's only gonna get some credit from some of you guys if he beat Canelo, but he doesn't want to fight him yet. And when hes trying to make that fight you guys side with Canelo because GGG wants to fight at the weight limit Canelo have the belt at really? You guys can't complain about GGG trying to make a catchweight with Ward at 164 and then complain about GGG doesn't want to go down to 155.

People say he should move to 168. Is there better fighters at 168 then 160 because I'm thinking it's not much better opponents besides Ward who's fighting at 175 now.

Comparatively, two years into his pro career, most people had a pretty good idea how special Floyd Mayweather was (even though Ward took longer than most, by about Yr 5, as a professional, you knew how special Andre Ward was).

No one is calling for Golovkin to fight Lara because it's going to be some great fight; people are calling for Lara, and calling Team Golovkin for ducking, because they've seen Lara in with enough top-flight opposition to understand that Lara has proven himself to be a good fighter, If Golovkin saws through Lara, as you seem to hope, he'd actually have a proven quality fighter on his resume. You add that the other fighter you seem to argue would validate Golovkin ('Canelo') fights at about the same weight as Alvarez does, and there's no reason to not fight Lara.

Beyond that, the only reason people are arguing for Golovkin to go up in weight is that he'd be facing bigger guys, likely more able to handle his power, giving fans the possible chance to see what tools he can bring forward when his opponent doesn't just fold up. No different than what the UFC ended up doing with Anderson Silva (Silva won the MW title, cleared out the top contenders at the weight, and ended up taking fights at LHW, while the UFC worked to establish fresh challengers). Golovkin doesn't have one-punch power at 160lbs; how is his power going to affect a super middleweight, likely cutting down from 175-185lbs to make 168?

[-Kev-]

I think it's also obviously the years of hype this guy has gotten, being right up high on the P4P list, never-ending praise, talk of weight jumping without following up on those promises etc.

But, the guy has the worst double standard fans in all of boxing currently. I love watching him fight, but his most ardent fans are really ****ing ****ish frankly. He's been a champion for six years with 14 or 15 title defenses, a pro for ten years and he's only fought three champions all up in that entire ten year period. That is beyond hilarious considering how much his fans slag on other boxers. Only one of those champions was a current champion too.

Floyd being the obvious choice they rag on most as some kind of coward that never fought anyone, avoided all challenges and has a **** resume full of bums. After ten years, they both had the same amount of fights, but Floyd had already fought in five divisions, was lineal champion in two divisions and had already beaten twelve champions, including five or six current champions including P4P level guys. That's nine more champions beaten over five divisions in the same amount of fights and the same amount of time...and his fans wonder why boxing fans tell them to shut the **** up for once when they start spouting their coward, no challenges, nonsense around the place.

Three champions out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Kassim Ouma
Daniel Geale
David Lemieux

Compared to twelve champions, five of them current (arguably three HOFers), two lineal titles over five divisions also out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Jose Luis Castillo
Diego Corrales
Gregorio Vargas
Jesus Chavez
Demarcus Corley
Zac Judah
Sharmba Mitchell
Carlos Baldomir
Arturo Gatti

The bolded were the current champs when they fought.

His resume is so poor compared to Floyd's 27(21KO's)-0 at Super Featherweight, that Floyd could give Golovkin his 130 resume/accomplishments and he would still be the greater fighter by a mile. That says a lot when a fighter can hypothetically give you half of his career, and your career still ain't **** compared to his. And this is the guy that GGG fans liked to accuse of all the things you said, for years upon years. I mean let's take it easy, start from Baldomir+, Golovkin's resume still looks like crap compared to Floyd's.

[Scipio2009]

34 years old and Rosado is among his best wins. There is a racial element to Golovkin. Imagine a 34 year old Black fighter like Golovkin he would be hated. Floyd Mayweather has fought in 5 divisions and people call him a coward so what is Golovkin if he's scared of 2 divisions.

^^^this

You look how Gennady Golovkin is pushed, and then compare that to how Peter Quillin was pushed (before getting KO'd). Golovkin's HBO run began only a few months after Quillin's fight with "Winky" Wright (the last fight before he basically stepped to world level).

Golovkin gets hailed as one of the best middleweight fighters ever, Quillin gets derided as a bum, yet Peter Quillin's fight resume over the stretch is arguably better than Golovkin's (N'Dam/Guerrero/Rosado/Lee/Jacobs vs Lemieux/Murray/Geale... Rosado/Macklin)