Debunking the PBC fighters can't fight on HBO Theory Myth and GGG's HBO contract

[djt117]

I agree mang! It's just ****** how they are just blaming one side, but those same ones blaming that one side also say that Haymon protects his fighters & other excuses as such..... but HBO only fights in house fights... aren't they protecting their fighters as well?

Its just ****** if they are so confident in GGG they would let him fight anyone, anywhere.

I don't think HBO fears that Golovkin is going to lose to anyone at 160

If there is any reticence, it could be over something strange. Example, Golovkin suffers a freak cut (caused by a punch) early in a fight that Golovkin is bossing and an over-zealous doctor stops it.

Then Haymon plays keep-away or tries to rake Golovkin over the coals in order for Golovkin to get a rematch to avenge the loss (i.e., asking for options on his next 3 fights or some other ridiculous ****).

Plus all of this presumes that Haymon is eager to sacrifice good fighters in his stable to Golovkin. Why the hell would he do that? He has zero incentive to help a rival promoter's fighter become an even bigger star. Just because--for example--Jacobs or Lara say they want the GGG fight (and let's take them at their word)--that doesn't mean Haymon wants it.

If die-hard Golovkin haters were smart (which in my experience, they're not, generally) they'd adopt Demetrius Andrade as their mascot and go-to stick with which to beat Golovkin. There's a guy who IS NOT behind the opposite side of the Wall in boxing's Cold War, who presents a dangerous stylistic matchup for Golovkin (however I don't know what his situation is with his current promoter(s) and whether or not he is actively fighting again). Also part of that is on Andrade because if I were him I'd be calling out Golovkin every single day and fighting as frequently as possible (seems like he's doing neither).

[Chollo Vista]

Yes but I think we all knew that fight wasn't going to happen, given that Duva had just pulled out of a purse bid with another Haymon client.

If Haymon had done the same thing, NSB would've called it a smokescreen to make it look good.

BD, I think you're missing the point here. Per Team Beterbeiv, they turned down the fight because AB was inexperienced with 9 fights. It had nothing to do with failed network negotiations with PBC - HBO.

[Chollo Vista]

I really wish this was the case. I for one think the real fans have always wanted them to work out their differences. Only a few trolls and bigots on NSB want status quo.

I would have to think.

[ИATAS]

I don't think HBO fears that Golovkin is going to lose to anyone at 160

If there is any reticence, it could be over something strange. Example, Golovkin suffers a freak cut (caused by a punch) early in a fight that Golovkin is bossing and an over-zealous doctor stops it.

Then Haymon plays keep-away or tries to rake Golovkin over the coals in order for Golovkin to get a rematch to avenge the loss (i.e., asking for options on his next 3 fights or some other ridiculous ****).

Plus all of this presumes that Haymon is eager to sacrifice good fighters in his stable to Golovkin. Why the hell would he do that? He has zero incentive to help a rival promoter's fighter become an even bigger star. Just because--for example--Jacobs or Lara say they want the GGG fight (and let's take them at their word)--that doesn't mean Haymon wants it.

If die-hard Golovkin haters were smart (which in my experience, they're not, generally) they'd adopt Demetrius Andrade as their mascot and go-to stick with which to beat Golovkin. There's a guy who IS NOT behind the opposite side of the Wall in boxing's Cold War, who presents a dangerous stylistic matchup for Golovkin (however I don't know what his situation is with his current promoter(s) and whether or not he is actively fighting again). Also part of that is on Andrade because if I were him I'd be calling out Golovkin every single day and fighting as frequently as possible (seems like he's doing neither).

Yeah I'm not sure why Andrade doesn't have more fans on NSB, he checks off all of the boxes that people love here. A couple years ago I thought he would definitely be a top fighter at 160 and kind of an Andre Ward type fighter (maybe not hugely popular, but one of the best). Sadly he seems to make one poor decision after another. He could have beat Korobov easily for a vacant 160 strap. He'd be a big player right now if he had that belt and could be in line for Canelo, GGG or Andy Lee & Saunders. History would have been altered but he chose to sit. To be fair though he simply might be more comfortable at 154 and if that's the case, that's cool, but I seem to remember him saying he was planning on campaigning at 160 and not go back to 154 iirc. I don't really know what's up with him.

[Chollo Vista]

Sorry to bust your bubble, but the "powers that be" dont care one single iota what you, me,

You couldn't be further from the truth.

Have you heard Kellerman and the rest of the commentating crews pre and post fight thoughts?

I've literally lost count with how many times they've referenced "public" outcry's about wrongdoings boxing related.

How do you think they get information on the climate of the fans?

Do you think it's some 1-800 boxing hotline number everyone calls and voices their opinions too?

Off the top of my head, why do you think Ellerbe took Canelo up on his 152 lb catchweight comments with Mayweather Jr signing off on? It's because Ellerbe and Team Mayweather read Team Canelo's boxingscene article's.

[Chollo Vista]

No its not, that article doesn't address what happened after Monroe. Cause you know, its old.

So what were the new contract agreements after Monroe Jr?

Unless you can find a definitive contract, the people have no choice but to go on what was put out which was GGG had a contractual agreement of a minimum of 4 fights in which he's already met his obligations for.

Did you know Gggs HBO contract ran out after Curtis Stevens?

I remember reading his contract ran out before but I fail to see your point here.

[Rath]

Do you need it repeated?

It's a TV series. Just like HBO World Championship Boxing, HBO Boxing After Dark, Showtime Championship Boxing, or ShoBox.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4597802/

gotcha!

a TV series on five different TV channels

sorry for not knowing what "series" means

sweet.

[DeadLikeMe]

Is HBO's cupboard that bare? He's probably the least credentialed "star" in HBO Boxing history. Pushing some goofy ass Borat sounding dude with zero resume as a superstar. Not even us ****** Americans are dumb enough to fall for this endless dog and pony show.

[Rath]

PBC shows are not broadcast shows in slow motion so Rath does not watch it.

childish hit, from a man who maliciously maligned and degrade a decent housewife to support a black gayp@rn artist cum boxer.

that slow mo video of spoon is really burning your soul huh losing some sleep dunn? can't stop thinking about me and that slow mo video


SHAME ON YOU

[djt117]

Is HBO's cupboard that bare? He's probably the least credentialed "star" in HBO Boxing history. Pushing some goofy ass Borat sounding dude with zero resume as a superstar. Not even us ****** Americans are dumb enough to fall for this endless dog and pony show.

GGG nearly equaling Cotto's ratings in 2014 (when Cotto fought on (non-PPV) HBO) and a sold-out MSG in 2015 suggest Americans are definitely impressed with the Kazakh phenom & further suggest you just hatin'