Have Boxers Ruined Boxing?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Some of my favorite fights have featured inside fighting predominantly. Morales-Barrera had plenty of it as did Trinidad-Campas as well as most of Roberto Duran's most entertaining fights.

When two guys keep distance from each other the whole fight, as most fighters who fight from the outside prefer, how entertaining can it be?

The Garcia-Guerrero fight did not get on the inside enough for Guerrero obviously, but I can only think it would have been more fun to watch if it would have.

The three styles spoken of often are slugger, swarmer and boxer, although some include the boxer-puncher category which some feel might be the best.

I guess I see way more movement in this modern era and I wonder if there is just flat-out too much movement?

There is nothing better than when two guys go right at each other like in Corrales-Castillo and Gatti-Ward I when Gatti did start infighting with Ward instead of boxing.

Boxing and staying safe might be smarter, but will it continue to pack arenas, given its less than entertaining nature?

I'm not saying every fight has to be a blood and guts brawl, but how about some infighting? It so rarely happens anymore.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

movement is fine when it is still boxing but most of the time it become running and alot of these "slick" fighter fanboys wont admit it but it is.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

But moving the whole damn fight?

I think any fighter should know how to stand and fight on the inside some, at least for the crowd's sake.

I know the "Ghost" loves to do so. I think with more power and back at 140, he does more damage.

[Quiksilva]

The media hyped up Floyd Mayweather, Jr., every boxer now wants to duplicate his style.

[Luilun]

Some of my favorite fights have featured inside fighting predominantly. Morales-Barrera had plenty of it as did Trinidad-Campas as well as most of Roberto Duran's most entertaining fights.

When two guys keep distance from each other the whole fight, as most fighters who fight from the outside prefer, how entertaining can it be?

The Garcia-Guerrero fight did not get on the inside enough for Guerrero obviously, but I can only think it would have been more fun to watch if it would have.

The three styles spoken of often are slugger, swarmer and boxer, although some include the boxer-puncher category which some feel might be the best.

I guess I see way more movement in this modern era and I wonder if there is just flat-out too much movement?

There is nothing better than when two guys go right at each other like in Corrales-Castillo and Gatti-Ward I when Gatti did start infighting with Ward instead of boxing.

Boxing and staying safe might be smarter, but will it continue to pack arenas, given its less than entertaining nature?

I'm not saying every fight has to be a blood and guts brawl, but how about some infighting? It so rarely happens anymore.

Thank Floyd and corrupt Judges scores back from the 70's and 80's would have had Floyd losing to Delahoya didn't do enough to take the title Castillo same here but got a beating in the process and Madonna beat his a$$ too that's 3 losses and he would have been DQ against Judah for his crack head uncle entering the ring. I also think crooks like Haymon are awarding corrupt judges to score the fight that benefits his fighters

[deathofaclown]

I do think a lot of young fighters are trying to emulate guys like Floyd. And it's only natural maybe. They see he's undefeated, made a hell of a lot of money and fame and maybe they think part of that is the key to fighting very safety first.

The problem is that Floyd was actually pretty exciting in his younger days. I can understand why people find him boring, especially later but if you enjoy the fine art of the sport, there was still a lot to enjoy and appreciate and be entertained by. What he did took tremendous skill and discipline. Fighters want to emulate it but they don't want to put the hours into learning it, and they don't have all the little nuances to dominate an opponent without giving them a beating, so they make it very boring. His style was a fine line between brilliant and boring depending on what you like, but he was excellent at it. I just think we're going to get a lot of cheap imitations who can't really pull it off properly and fall well within the line of boring.

Also another problem with boxing is....people like Khan will remain inactive and hope to land the big fights but fighters like Floyd and Manny actually earned their status and went through weight divisions beating and dominating champions along the way, Floyd would fight guys like Diego Corrales and Manny would be fighting good guys too. There's too much focus on being the A-side. Unless you've done great things and earned your status over many years by winning like Floyd and Manny, then as far as i'm concerned there's no real A-side.

Young fighters now want to be divas and call the shots without earning it. Maybe it's just a sign of the times, not just in boxing.

[soul_survivor]

People have mistaken running and holding for boxing and then there's people who think any one with even a hint of offense is not a "boxer" and yet, guys like Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Oscar, Pacquiao, Tito etc were great BOXERS.

Running and clinching doesn't automatically equate to boxing.

[boxinghead530]

The media hyped up Floyd Mayweather, Jr., every boxer now wants to duplicate his style.

Yea whats worse is the fanboys fanatics of Floyd who say they are purist of the game and only like boxing for its hit and not get hit style and claim that boxing is not rockem sockem robots, but then the same dudes praise Deontay Wilder who has one of the most crudest styles in boxing with very limited skill but with great power.

[The Big Dunn]

Some of my favorite fights have featured inside fighting predominantly. Morales-Barrera had plenty of it as did Trinidad-Campas as well as most of Roberto Duran's most entertaining fights.

When two guys keep distance from each other the whole fight, as most fighters who fight from the outside prefer, how entertaining can it be?

The Garcia-Guerrero fight did not get on the inside enough for Guerrero obviously, but I can only think it would have been more fun to watch if it would have.

The three styles spoken of often are slugger, swarmer and boxer, although some include the boxer-puncher category which some feel might be the best.

I guess I see way more movement in this modern era and I wonder if there is just flat-out too much movement?

There is nothing better than when two guys go right at each other like in Corrales-Castillo and Gatti-Ward I when Gatti did start infighting with Ward instead of boxing.

Boxing and staying safe might be smarter, but will it continue to pack arenas, given its less than entertaining nature?

I'm not saying every fight has to be a blood and guts brawl, but how about some infighting? It so rarely happens anymore.

There isn't too much movement. There has always been movement. Fighters today are not learning how to cut off the ring and fighters are not learning the art of inside fighting as you have pointed out. If they did, they would be able to neutralize movement and force the boxer to fight a different fight.

We are seeing the result of networks emphasizing entertainment over skill. The guys that get KTFO and repeatedly put on TV are not skilled at infighting either.

As boxing gyms have closed around the USA there is less and less boxing skill in the ring. It would be nice if the US Olympic committee invested more in boxing. If they did, I think you could get some veteran trainers to teach all the skills necessary to succeed in the ring.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

There isn't too much movement. There has always been movement. Fighters today are not learning how to cut off the ring and fighters are not learning the art of inside fighting as you have pointed out. If they did, they would be able to neutralize movement and force the boxer to fight a different fight.

We are seeing the result of networks emphasizing entertainment over skill. The guys that get KTFO and repeatedly put on TV are not skilled at infighting either.

As boxing gyms have closed around the USA there is less and less boxing skill in the ring. It would be nice if the US Olympic committee invested more in boxing. If they did, I think you could get some veteran trainers to teach all the skills necessary to succeed in the ring.

Yes, I have noticed that fighters don't cut off the ring anymore. They usually just follow their opponent around. What's that going to accomplish?

Well, that's a shame and I see a modern problem. Knowing how to cut off the ring and fight on the inside is very vital. There's definitely a lack of it and I guess that's what annoys me, as well as boring fans.

Yes, we need veteran trainers badly!