Comments Thread For: Wilder-Szpilka TV Ratings Not Indicitave Of Overall Exposure

[Scipio2009]

They need to be smarter about putting on there stars on certain days. No matter which way you try to twist it or try to come up with the reason for weak numbers your still getting weak numbers.

In my opinion the PBC experiment has worked on Spike, and Fox Sports 1 so far.

ESPN, CBS, Showtime have all been failures. I know they get paid by CBS and Showtime so I guess that doesn't really matter.

NBC was hot at first but has seen a major dip in numbers. Not sure how bounce has done.

My point is it will be very interesting seeing what networks will be willing to put Boxing on there networks after they get done being paid by Al Haymon for the time slots he purchased.

^^^this, kinda.

In my mind, the whole PBC effort always seemed destined to end up with CBS/Showtime being the network to sign the main deal (Saturday afternoon boxing when football season is over, 5-8 primetime broadcasts, smaller shows/vignettes for other fight cards, to give folks a reason to pick up CBSSportsNetwork, and Showtime being the venue to take advantage of whatever pay fights end up emerging).

The thing that's changed, however, is that I now see PBC picking up the rest of the supporting programming contracts. Saturday Night Fights (PBC on ESPN), Friday Night Lights Out (PBC on SpikeTV), Toe-to-Toe Tuedays (PBC on FS1), and the BounceTV fights cards are all deals that I see being picked up by their respective channels.

[Scipio2009]

What they should have done is moved the fight to this weekend and put Garcia and Guerrero on the undercard. That would guarantee big ratings.

Going up against the Packers-Cardinals game was just a bad move.

Wilder made $1.5m for the Szpilka fight (Wilder-Szpilka ended up costing $1.75m), and Garcia-Guerrero likely has a total payout that's about the same, committing nearly $3.5m in payouts to only one PBC broadcast.

[Drunken Cat]

How would the non-subscriber, free weekend viewers not be counted in the Nielsen ratings?

I'm pretty sure they are mostly based off surveys (I've actually done them once, they send you a few bucks, and a booklet to fill out for a week, and a pre-paid envelope.

It isn't true that what you watch on TV is actually monitored, despite the misconceptions. They rely on survey data.

If the person watched Showtime on a free preview weekend and isn't a subscriber, it wouldn't be excluded, as far as I'm aware.

[MrRolltide91]

The KO has over 3 million views on Showtime sports youtube channel

[MrRolltide91]

I think the fight served its purpose. Did some nice numbers across several platforms and the KO got notice. Had a couple casual fans at the office talk about it the following Monday. Not to mention Fury helping out.

I like the way they're building Wilder up. Not easy to do so with heavyweights in this climate. The problem is that Wilder is a KO waiting to happen. I'm sure his team is hoping he can remain upright long enough to net them that big heavyweight unification on primetime TV.

The KO has over 3 million views



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And the fury confrontation has over 1.6 million views



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[sicko]

Called this during the fight, they went head to head with a GREAT NFL Playoff Game then to make things worse that game went into Overtime.

Nobody goes head to head with the NFL in American, NFL is KING in America when it come to Ratings so this fight never had a chance. I had NFL Playoffs on TV and was watching the fight on their youtube stream so the views of that youtube stream is probably the more important number than the TV Rating

[Eff Pandas]

A fighter like Wilder should have been a star by now but he is not.

I don't believe this to be true at all. Wilder fought 30 odd nobodies before having some real fights starting last January. In his one year of fighting live opponents its not very disputable he's fought on average lesser caliber guys than a champion should fight. I kinda feel they are doing one of those "on the job" training type championship reigns right now. Kinda like what Arum is doing with Loma, although obviously this approach is much more excusable since Loma has a handful of fights. But basically you don't go from fighting nobodies for 30 odd fights over years & than in 4 fights over a year just auto-become a star. It takes more time & more fights...more big fights. Wilder is gonna have beat Povetkin &/or Fury before he'll become a star.

[MrRolltide91]

I don't believe this to be true at all. Wilder fought 30 odd nobodies before having some real fights starting last January. In his one year of fighting live opponents its not very disputable he's fought on average lesser caliber guys than a champion should fight. I kinda feel they are doing one of those "on the job" training type championship reigns right now. Kinda like what Arum is doing with Loma, although obviously this approach is much more excusable since Loma has a handful of fights. But basically you don't go from fighting nobodies for 30 odd fights over years & than in 4 fights over a year just auto-become a star. It takes more time & more fights...more big fights. Wilder is gonna have beat Povetkin &/or Fury before he'll become a star.

Yea if wilder becomes the undisputed heavyweight champion, then he become the biggest cash cow in boxing

[The Gambler1981]

Wilder has never been a can't miss sort of prospect, he was a guy with potential but was so raw that him making it to any degree was never a great proposition.

So in one sense they have hit big with him because he has to a large degree made it, he still is not some huge star although he is building (last Saturday night certainly did not hurt him) but he will have some big money fights with a real chance to become a big star.

[Sweet Jones]

33 million people were watching the playoff game that was airing at the same time, of course it had an effect.

Let's see how tonight's fights do for PBC. There are no NFL games until tomorrow

But there is that Bulls/Cavaliers NBA game on ABC tonight to compete with.