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Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: A lot of People, A lot of Fans Think I Beat Mayweather
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It's getting embarrassing now. Some people just can't handle cold, hard reality and will go to any lengths to deny the truth.
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Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View PostMy point is you have to ask yourself serious questions if you saw the opposite of what everybody else did.
Like for example, is there bias involved here...
Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostI agree. He also out defended Floyd. People ignorantly labeled Manny as a volume puncher who would get picked apart by Floyd. They underestimated Manny's ability. They ignore the fact the he is more athletic than Floyd, he has better legs and faster feet than Floyd. They didn't realize how good or how smart he is as a fighter. BIG MISTAKE! I knew he would win if they ever fought. Put it this way, Manny would've marked Floyd's face up if he didn't hurt his shoulder. FACT. Floyd retired because he isn't a true champion. Manny deserves a rematch. Period. And it's a possibility that Floyd bought judges, the ref, and was roided up. He is a fraud who came to survive, not fight. And people think he's on SRL's level? What a joke. He is not.Last edited by Mr. Punch-Out!!; 01-21-2016, 02:01 PM.
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I agree...
Originally posted by MisanthropicNY View PostIf Pac-May was scored for who actually did more damage in the fight than Manny won. If the fight is scored by the expectation that Manny had to dominate the round to win, then Floyd won...
Best post I've seen in this particular thread, as I scroll through them. I kind of hinted to this in my original post to the thread, check it out. Floyd arrogantly underestimated how much of a complete fight Manny is. The fans and experts did as well. They thought he was a one-dimensional tornado and would get picked apart by Floyd. The ignored how he is a master at controlling distance, his counter punching ability, his ring IQ, and his defense. He made Floyd look ****** at times. As big as Floyd is, he fought like a coward. On top of all of this, he knew Manny was injured, he was roided up, bought judges, ref, and only came to survive. He cheated us as fans and should be ashamed of himself. I am impressed with how Manny fought. And if you listen to Floyd's opinion of Manny, he thought so too.
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I'm actually strating to lose respect for the great Manny Pacquiao. You ****ing lost! Mayweather won! Move on and stop making silly excuses. I know there are some drug addicts out there who think Pacquiao won the fight but some people still think that 2Pac is alive.
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Originally posted by Jay Volcano View PostI'm actually strating to lose respect for the great Manny Pacquiao..
Originally posted by Jay Volcano View PostYou ****ing lost! Mayweather won! Move on and stop making silly excuses. I know there are some drug addicts out there who think Pacquiao won the fight but some people still think that 2Pac is alive.
Also, the difference is there's actual proof that Pacquiao won. You want to see the videos for proof?
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Slow motion doesn't lie.
Pacquiao was so fast in both attack and defense, that probably half or more of his connected punches (WHICH DID SOUND LIKE A PUNCH BTW) were never credited by either Compubox or the American judges, being on American soil, and in Las Vegas no less.
Likewise, half or more of Floyd's punches were credited as landed, but they never ever made any sound like Manny's, and in slow motion it is clearly evident that Manny dodged most of them with excellent head or body movement, and/or caught them with his gloves.
Pacquiao proved to be faster and more accurate than Mayweather both in offense and defense, but his problem is that he is not such a good "poser" when he lands his punches, most of the time they are so awkward that the only way to appreciate and acknowledge them is with the use of slow motion and a very good angle. Conversely, most of Floyd's pot-shot punches LOOK way more aesthetic, almost like theatrically rehearsed for maximum effect, and even if they don't actually land, IDK how he does it but in real time it LOOKS like they do land, but there's no sound to them and in slo-mo you can see that he missed, sometimes even by a few inches...
I am pretty sure that a similar story went down in both of his Maidana fights. Even in regular motion, I clearly saw Maidana dodge or catch most of those supposedly "landed" punches, and frankly Mayweather looked clumsy and old at times. In the De la Hoya fight, similar story, and even in his fight vs. Marquez as well, Marquez did actually land a lot of great combinations of three or more punches on Floyd, which were never credited to him. It doesn't matter that he was punching like a weakling because he was at least two weight divisions smaller than Floyd and in his poorest shape ever, his combinations did still land and he got no credit for them. BTW Floyd did not land a single combination of punches vs. Marquez throughout the whole fight. Just one pot-shot after the other, --many of them caught or dodged as usual-- but his theatrics were great as always, to impress the very-biased American judges.
I insist, a 2nd meeting should have no advantages for Floyd, it should not be on American soil, no American judges, no American referee, no sold-out "punch stats" by Compubox. Instead, this time let the fight take place in Asia, China for example. Use several independent, non-biased stats providers that really do take the necessary time to analyze the punch stats in slow motion and in several angles AFTER the fight ends, and also use the referee, judges, gloves, commentators, drug-testing agencies, betting houses, etc. etc. that Manny chooses, not Floyd, and then, let's see what happens... Oh and I forgot, let's see a Maanny fighting with BOTH hands as well...
But that of course is just a fantasy, the American fighter with all the financial power and clout does always dictate the terms, so if a 2nd fight would be to take place in Las Vegas again, IMO only ****** people would pay to see such a fiasco again, because I don't think Manny has the capability to knock Floyd out, with all the clinching and running involved, if he hasn't been able to knock out smaller and less super-defensive opponents for the last few years.Last edited by sterilizer; 01-21-2016, 03:04 PM.
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