Bob Arum gives his 2 cents on Donald Trump and bigotry

[therealpugilist]

so christianity is a..... white man's religion? Even though christianity started in the same area(middle east) as islam?

Christianity was created by people of color....correct....Christians are also not to make images graven images of God, etc.

I majored in media arts and animation and had to take many art history cources, humanities.

They whited Jesus out over the years....think about it....White people brought Christianity to America...brought it to islands in the Pacific....Romans took over the religion hundreds of years ago, made it their own as did other civilizations.....Do you think Jesus was really the white, light brown haired, blue eyed Jesus guy they have pictures and murals of in churches??\

50-200 years after Christ he was depicted as a dark skinned, dark hair, beard and curly afro

Jesus was depicted the way he was described in the bible....Hair of wool, skin of bronze and eyes of flaming fire...Im Christian but I know Jesus didn't look like the guy they present today

[therealpugilist]

Hey bro, how's it going?

I agree with a lot of the points you make about boxing and other topics. However, I have always found it weird when people use the word "America" to refer to the United States. In international forums, the country's name is the "United States of America". You will never see "America" used to refer to your country alone.

America is a continent, not a country. I always thought that's kinda power grab on the part of the United States, by appropriating the whole continent's name. I'm expressing this opinion as a North American, by the way.

I thought I should point that out.

im usually on my phone...typing the united states of America is a bit much texting with one hand...yea im lazy

[bigjavi973]

Christianity was created by people of color....correct....Christians are also not to make images graven images of God, etc.

I majored in media arts and animation and had to take many art history cources, humanities.

They whited Jesus out over the years....think about it....White people brought Christianity to America...brought it to islands in the Pacific....Romans took over the religion hundreds of years ago, made it their own as did other civilizations.....Do you think Jesus was really the white, light brown haired, blue eyed Jesus guy they have pictures and murals of in churches??\

50-200 years after Christ he was depicted as a dark skinned, dark hair, beard and curly afro

Jesus was depicted the way he was described in the bible....Hair of wool, skin of bronze and eyes of flaming fire...Im Christian but I know Jesus didn't look like the guy they present today

oh I agree here..... Jesus imo should look more middle eastern.

[HAY-B]

His views aren't extreme at all though. They would bring us closer to the rest of the civilized world, whose immigration policies are already insanely loose to begin with.

Have you actually read his suggestions or did you just read third-party editorials articles throwing the terms "bigoted" and "racist" around?

My family immigrated from the middle east and I'm voting for Trump if he gets the nomination. Most of what he says is common sense. Neckbeard hipsters & ol' confused ******* *** Bob can say otherwise.

Where's the call to build a wall between the US and Canada? Are you going to tell me that we don't have a problem with Canadians living illegally in America? Oh yeah that's right, if their skin is close to that of a Caucasian they go undetected so how would we Americans ever know because they are not being singled out and scrutinized. I grew up in Northern California and we have a large Ukrainian population in the Sacramento area too which many are illegal but they blend in well because of their skin color. So unless they open their mouths to speak they're given a pass at first glance as being your everyday average American White folks. Yet Trump makes no mention of any ethnicity other than those that look as if they border the USA to the south. Then he attempts to put a face on a religion as if only a person who "looks like this" or coming from "here" believes in Islam.
How can someone place the blame and actions of a few on the entire group if that same man is not willing to shoulder the blame for the actions of a few within his own group?
No matter how you slice it , dice it or plain ole cut it, there are good and bad in every ethnicity and religion. But to further stigmatize a group of people and call for others to follow in suit adds to the division we have in America. If Trump or any other candidate cares they would be calling for all Americans to work together to rid our society of the bad apples not just the bad apples of one group.
In my opinion, Trumps takes America backwards. We need to go forward.

[therealpugilist]

******* Christianity and Islam were all created around the same region and I'm not sure the early proponents would be considered "people of color" or not by American standards.

But Islam is most definitely not a race. One thing you will come to understand is that the Islamic world (just like Mexico) has it's own racial divisions. A disproportionate amount of *********s are transients who don't even know where they're from because of the massive population swell in the southern regions while the levant tends to have fairly stable birthrates. Upper classes tend to be from very old pre-Islamic Mediterranean families with lighter skin.

I don't know if it's still widely used but when my mother was growing up one Aramaic/Arabic word for "black person" was the same as the word for "slave" since that was the nature of the peninsula's relationship with Africa.

"People of Color" is an American left concept, some fantasy where everyone is united against the remaining number of American whites and the outside world is closing in around them, but it's just not reality. Every country, religion, has internal racial divisions and nobody outside of American leftist circles knows what being "of Color" implies.

I get that one hillbilly somewhere thinks ******s=black guys with machine guns but I fail to see how his delusion should have any bearing on the rest of us.

Much of the assault on Trump seems to rely on this myth that he's some yokel dropout and journalists extrapolate based on that to tell you what he "really meant", when he said nothing of the sort.

great post...for everyone with sense like you...there is that hillbilly


Yes Persians and middle eastern people created chrisitanity but lets not forget who controlled that area and the religions practiced and how they changed things to fit their society.


Jesus today looks nothing like the Jesus they depicted near his own time


Christians from Jerusalem or Jordan didn't bring Christianity across the pond or force it on other countries they conquered. Europeans did. Im not saying its a white religion but they did take it over and tweeked things to fit them.


They don't even have the description of Jesus that was in the King James Version of the Bible in the new international versions.

[Boxfan83]

Ima call BS on that. Those passports that the hijackers used ended up being STOLEN passports from around europe/asia. So no they didn't come here the "legal way" as you stated.

I worked with one of the guys that approved one of their Visas that was obtained legally. He had to go through years of therapy.

Lawmakers on both sides of the immigration debate have falsely claimed that “some” or “all” of the 9/11 hijackers were in the U.S. on student visas. Only one of the 19 hijackers came to the U.S. on a student visa. The rest arrived here on tourist or business visas.

Mybad if I insinuated they became citizens but they did come in the country the legal way. And dont get me started on the ones that come over here "the legal way" than overstay their visas only to get granted citizenship while residing illegally in the country.

[Fidel456]

**********s r a mess. They can't even have a mature debate. Rubio always needs water, trump is always trying to punk Bush they're like kids up there

[1bad65]

Are you going to tell me that we don't have a problem with Canadians living illegally in America?

Yup

The rest of it is just the usual tripe the race-baiters use when they are attacking someone who, unlike themselves, isn't a racist.

[SterlingStained]

**********s r a mess. They can't even have a mature debate. Rubio always needs water, trump is always trying to punk Bush they're like kids up there

that water stunt basically ended rubio's credibility in my eyes.

the best chance the **********s have against a forgone conclusion ticket of hillary/sanders.

cruz would gets stomped by hillaberns.

trump would do damage.

especially in debates.

you might actually see actual tears from hillary's crooked eyes if she had to debate trump.

[therealpugilist]

Where's the call to build a wall between the US and Canada? Are you going to tell me that we don't have a problem with Canadians living illegally in America? Oh yeah that's right, if their skin is close to that of a Caucasian they go undetected so how would we Americans ever know because they are not being singled out and scrutinized. I grew up in Northern California and we have a large Ukrainian population in the Sacramento area too which many are illegal but they blend in well because of their skin color. So unless they open their mouths to speak they're given a pass at first glance as being your everyday average American White folks. Yet Trump makes no mention of any ethnicity other than those that look as if they border the USA to the south. Then he attempts to put a face on a religion as if only a person who "looks like this" or coming from "here" believes in Islam.
How can someone place the blame and actions of a few on the entire group if that same man is not willing to shoulder the blame for the actions of a few within his own group?
No matter how you slice it , dice it or plain ole cut it, there are good and bad in every ethnicity and religion. But to further stigmatize a group of people and call for others to follow in suit adds to the division we have in America. If Trump or any other candidate cares they would be calling for all Americans to work together to rid our society of the bad apples not just the bad apples of one group.
In my opinion, Trumps takes America backwards. We need to go forward.

this was the best post ive read in a long time. You said a mouthful and summed it all up


If you are gonna make a wall...make a wall for Canada too....oh wait...there are no *********s, rapists, killer, or illegal people from Canada lol