why some boxers stay obscure and why some are mainstream?

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  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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    #11
    You need to be able to draw attention to yourself, however that is whether being a piece of shit, a good looker, a charismatic ass person, KO's etc etc just SOMETHING that draws people to you.

    You cant do that you will never be star.

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    • fanofslug
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      #12
      Originally posted by thealfa
      Is this the boxer's fault or the promoters? Seems as if some boxers stay local and some become mainstream in their first TV fight. I think Andre Ward was mainstream since his first fight. He was always on the HBOs and the Shotimes, etc. I guess it's who you know? Kinda like some music artists who blow up in the mainstream without any local or indie cred. Regarding the MMA/boxer Holly Holm, I looked up her boxing record and seemed as if she had most of her boxing fights in her hometown of Albuquerque. I think Ronda Rousey was pampered to be mainstream since day one since she had no boxing experience or record. So it's who you know right and what insider people took you in under their wings right? Like Andre Ward was an Olympian so he had people looking out for him to nurture him to be a mainstream fighter, kinda like Mayweather as well. In other words someone's rolling the dice who becomes a star just by having mass media exposure?
      It all boils down to entertainment. No one wants to watch some drab boxer jab his way to victory. Look at Klitchko, ten years and no one could care less about his fights, and it had nothing to do with him being from Europe. He was boring to watch, and totally devoid of charisma outside the ring.

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      • VatoMulatto
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        #13
        It's all about that "it" factor. Some people have it and others don't. The same thing with singers and actors...etc

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        • MrRolltide91
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          #14
          Originally posted by VatoMulatto
          It's all about that "it" factor. Some people have it and others don't. The same thing with singers and actors...etc
          Basically.....

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          • sicko
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            #15
            I don't think we will see another Boxer that will come anywhere close to being as big as Mayweather and Pacquiao was, I know a lot of you are wishing for your new favorite fighter to reach that level but it is not going to happen especially the way boxing and its fans are so divided on EVERYTHING.
            Next Crossover Superstars in Combat Sports will all be from the UFC. Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Robbie Lawler, Aljamain Sterling, Luke Rockhold, Sage Norcutt (even though he lost yesterday still has Superstar Potential at only 19). They also do a better job of marketing than boxing does. Rousey is already a Crossover Star to be honest!

            Boxing will have its new Stars but next Real Cossover Superstar, I don't see that fighter yet. I see guys with Potential but most of them are missing something. Either they don't have the Look, Charisma or they can't Speak English. I do think Tyson Fury has the best chance but he is not "PC" enough for America, they will use his past comments against him forever and he likely will never get any endorsements here like Lennox had because of past comments which I think is complete BS

            Originally posted by MrRolltide91
            Some have it and some don't
            Bottom Line! Trying to FORCE fighters down people throats at this next big Superstar like HBO and others try to do with NEVER WORK!

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            • MrRolltide91
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              #16
              Originally posted by sicko
              I don't think we will see another Boxer that will come anywhere close to being as big as Mayweather and Pacquiao was, I know a lot of you are wishing for your new favorite fighter to reach that level but it is not going to happen especially the way boxing and its fans are so divided on EVERYTHING.
              Next Crossover Superstars in Combat Sports will all be from the UFC. Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Robbie Lawler, Aljamain Sterling, Luke Rockhold, Sage Norcutt (even though he lost yesterday still has Superstar Potential at only 19). They also do a better job of marketing than boxing does. Rousey is already a Crossover Star to be honest!

              Boxing will have its new Stars but next Real Cossover Superstar, I don't see that fighter yet. I see guys with Potential but most of them are missing something. Either they don't have the Look, Charisma or they can't Speak English. I do think Tyson Fury has the best chance but he is not "PC" enough for America, they will use his past comments against him forever and he likely will never get any endorsements here like Lennox had because of past comments which I think is complete BS



              Bottom Line! Trying to FORCE fighters down people throats at this next big Superstar like HBO and others try to do with NEVER WORK!
              Canelo could be a superstar especially if beats lil g and keeps winning.

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              • sicko
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                #17
                Originally posted by MrRolltide91
                Canelo could be a superstar especially if beats lil g and keeps winning.
                Yeah I give him the best chance but he will have to learn some English, at least enough to sell himself to Casual Americans

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                • thealfa
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                  #18
                  Pacquia and Mayweather had 5 years of hype and anticipation which is why it was bigger than it should be. I think the former biggest/highest payday fight before had the same type of years of anticipation and hype (Lewis/Tyson). Only reason why Mayweather/Pacquia fight was so huge was because of *****. Seriously. People and the whole world started paying attention to **********.

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                  • thealfa
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                    #19
                    actor labeauf (?) just doesn't have it, yet he still ends up in big payday movies, it's who he knows growing up as a child actor.

                    Originally posted by VatoMulatto
                    It's all about that "it" factor. Some people have it and others don't. The same thing with singers and actors...etc

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