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You know, Don King could use a dude like you. Someone who knows how to labor in semantics to divert the truth.

Ok that's totally unfair.

This also means that according to you....there was absolutely no possible way that Wlad was drugged. Simply because you're stating that I'm trying to divert the "Truth".

How are you so positive that he wasn't drugged? Do you know for a fact that nobody tampered with a consumable, or other?

How do you know this?

You can't answer "How do I know he was drugged" because I don't. Like I've stated.......There is the possibility that foul play may have taken place.

Huge difference.



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And state your thesis as to why Emanuel Steward would change Wladimir's sparring schedule and regimine after this fight, if the only reason Klitschko was adversely deteriorated in the fight was because someone had tampered with him.

Ever heard of a guy by the name of Corrie Sanders?

He knocked Wlad out. I'd say that's reason enough to change regimes given he was knocked out by Brewster as well.

That's a proactive measure, and should'nt warrant explaination.



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[Mr. Ryan]

Ok that's totally unfair.

This also means that according to you....there was absolutely no possible way that Wlad was drugged. Simply because you're stating that I'm trying to divert the "Truth".

How are you so positive that he wasn't drugged? Do you know for a fact that nobody tampered with a consumable, or other?

How do you know this?

You can't answer "How do I know he was drugged" because I don't. Like I've stated.......There is the possibility that foul play may have taken place.

Huge difference.

You eluded to the parallels between me Boxing Scene and a court room. A court room uses hardcore evidence, not hearsay. How can you enter into a court room evidence that states MAYBE, when you are trying to prove right and wrong. Maybe Wladimir was drugged, we must discredit Lamon Brewster's 5th round TKO win because Wladimir MIGHT HAVE been drugged and tampered with. Heres a little project for you pare, go and write an essay in which you do a comparison and contrast with the Boxing Scene posters who have no evidence or credible sources to back up their conspiracies. I think I might find that interesting. MAYBE!

[Mr. Ryan]

Ever heard of a guy by the name of Corrie Sanders?

He knocked Wlad out. I'd say that's reason enough to change regimes given he was knocked out by Brewster as well.

That's a proactive measure, and should'nt warrant explaination.

Oh yes, I think I remember Corrie Sanders. Thats the fight that Larry Merchant stated in the pre-fight on camera that "Wladimir Klitschko seems to perfect, you almost wonder whats wrong with him." That was simply a case of a man who punched too hard for the other man to handle blowing the other guy away. Thats not something you change your sparring regimen for, thats something you change your defensive tactics for. The Brewster fight warranted sparring changes because it was a case of Wladimir shooting his load after 4 rounds because he didn't pace himself. Do some research or watch a fight before you change the facts around, pare.

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You eluded to the parallels between me Boxing Scene and a court room. A court room uses hardcore evidence, not hearsay. How can you enter into a court room evidence that states MAYBE, when you are trying to prove right and wrong. Maybe Wladimir was drugged, we must discredit Lamon Brewster's 5th round TKO win because Wladimir MIGHT HAVE been drugged and tampered with. Heres a little project for you pare, go and write an essay in which you do a comparison and contrast with the Boxing Scene posters who have no evidence or credible sources to back up their conspiracies. I think I might find that interesting. MAYBE!

This entire passage is ridiculous.

You're under the strange impression these accusations came from one single source: Boxingscene.

That's absurd and I won't even comment further on that nonsense.



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Thats not something you change your sparring regimen for, thats something you change your defensive tactics for. The Brewster fight warranted sparring changes because it was a case of Wladimir shooting his load after 4 rounds because he didn't pace himself. Do some research or watch a fight before you change the facts around, pare.

Another ridiculous post.

I loved the way you try and justify that you have no clue what you're talking about by making up false statements.

The issue that Steward tried to fix was his mental conditioning and stamina. Something he attributed to Wlad having been knocked out by Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster.

He believed it was a mental block that led him to giving way from Sanders punching him. Not the idea that he has a "bad chin" and needed defensive improvement.

Please stop trying to look intelligent by typing exteneded meaningless paragraphs. It does you no justice.



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[Mr. Ryan]

This entire passage is ridiculous.
You're under the strange impression these accusations came from one single source: Boxingscene.
That's absurd and I won't even comment further on that nonsense.

I wouldn't either if I was exposed as being an uninformed nuthugger like you are. Did you or did you not state this remark?

Explain how I contradicted myself.

If we were in court, your arguement would have been sustained.

Oh and you can't return a question with a question.

I never stated that Boxing Scene was the source, just the arena by which to debate this topic. If you have no counter arguments, or are walking out on this discussion on principle , lets close this topic and talk about something you do know.

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I never stated that Boxing Scene was the source, just the arena by which to debate this topic. If you have no counter arguments, or are walking out on this discussion on principle , lets close this topic and talk about something you do know.

write an essay in which you do a comparison and contrast with the Boxing Scene posters who have no evidence or credible sources to back up their conspiracies. I think I might find that interesting. MAYBE!

Unbelieveable.

You're too literate for your own level of intelligence.

This is sad to the tenth degree. I'm under the assumption that you've read about the conspiracy somewhere else right?



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[Mr. Ryan]

Another incredible post.

I loved the way you try and justify that you have no clue what you're talking about by making up false statements.

The issue that Steward tried to fix was his mental conditioning and stamina. Something he attributed to Wlad having been knocked out by Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster.

He believed it was a mental block that led him to giving way from Sanders punching him. Not the idea that he has a "bad chin" and needed defensive improvement.

Please stop trying to look intelligent by typing exteneded meaningless paragraphs. It does you no justice.

Uh Oh, here comes the desperation personal attacks he employs when he doesn't know what else to do Are you suggesting that Wladimir's first and second round knockdowns were the product of exhaustion? Give me a break pare. The issue of sparring and stamina was simply to teach Wladimir how to pace himself. You cannot be a 6'8 monster throwing 120 punches a round, common sense. Since Wladimir was used to sparring 3-4 rounds at a time, he never learned how to pace himself for the long haul. And if a dude doesn't move his head and keeps getting caught by the same straight left hand over and over again, maybe he needs defensive improvements, or head gear.

[Mr. Ryan]

Unbelieveable.

You're too literate for your own level of intelligence.

This is sad to the tenth degree. I'm under the assumption that you've read about the conspiracy somewhere else right?

WTF are you talking about? My own level of intelligence has nothing to do about it, my level of being informed and neutrality in this conversation is what is dominating, not my intelligence or lack thereof. The conspiracy that somehow Brewster-Klitschko should be discredited because of him being tampered with is what I am referring to. You are simply a blind nuthugger who can't accept the reality of things. Learn your sport before you talk, you look smarter.